[MikeYuse0406]

I do not see the add being misleading. If you read carefully all the prints in very small letters, you will notice that apple's "twice as fast speed" is on the coverage areas only. It is clearly stated in black and white, though it is stated in very small letters. As human and civilized people, you must read everything prior to making a purchase and/or signing a contract. I live in South Florida and have compared my Wife's 3G on WiFi and my 3G on 3G and the speed of WiFi is faster, but not that much faster than the 3G. However, the 3G is way faster when comparing to EDGE. Again, where I live I get full 3G coverage. I am even conected when I am inside the building.

[blackburn]

I own 1 2g iPhone and 2 3g iPhones and I am using my old 2g iPhone because both of my iPhone 3g are much slowerer and laggier than the 2g. I am extremely disappointed in the iPhone 3g they crash all the time and the keyboard is obsolutly terrible

[MikeYuse0406]

Originally Posted by blackburn

I own 1 2g iPhone and 2 3g iPhones and I am using my old 2g iPhone because both of my iPhone 3g are much slowerer and laggier than the 2g. I am extremely disappointed in the iPhone 3g they crash all the time and the keyboard is obsolutly terrible

On the contrary, I also have a 2G, which I will be selling soon, and 2 3G. I have tested all three iPhones side by side on edge, 3G, and WiFi and the results are that the 3G is indeed better, though I feel as if the 2G back casing is more protective. I never heard of the hairline crack on the 2G. However, performance wise, I have found my 3G and my wife's 3G to be much faster than my 2G I was previously using. Since I updated to 2.2 I have noticed that both 3G are even better.

[thetoothfairy]

Originally Posted by Bluprint

As an apple employee my job is to dazzle folks with iphone features, downloads, and synchronizations but we tend to hide the important stuff like speed, coverage, bugs, and applecare (it's not a warranty, but if I say it is then I'll most likely sell it and get the credit)

anyways apple is very misleading and could care less about you as the CONSUMER

Wow..... at least your telling the truth about your job if this is what you have to do......

[Eurisko]

I agree that anyone fully believing the Ads to be fact are foolish. You have to get your entire idea across in a 30 second commercial. And you can't be waiting in real-time for stuff to download in a commercial. What they say and what they show are two different things, and should be taken as such.

This is like filing a class action lawsuit against Tide because the commercial shows it gets the stains out in 5 seconds flat. Give me a break.

[ima80baby]

I don't care what you guys say. If a company puts out a product and makes a commercial, then they shouldn't make the commercial over exaggerate the products efficiency or anything else that potential customers are going to want. If I was selling monkeys and I told you that all of them could make pancakes, wouldn't you want that monkey to make pancakes if you bought it? The same thing applies here. You can't just tell people a product does something that it really doesn't and then expect them to act civilly about it. The fault here is clearly on Apple.

[Eurisko]

Originally Posted by ima80baby

You can't just tell people a product does something that it really doesn't and then expect them to act civilly about it. The fault here is clearly on Apple.

What a device is capable of, and what it actually does are usually vastly different things. Apple doesn't control the internet. So if you can't get a fast download because your signal is weak, or the web server is busy, or the network is overloaded. That's all Apple's fault? Come' on.

My car is capable of going 280Kph, but I've never been able to drive it that fast, maybe I should get pissed off at GM.

[CyberKira]

Originally Posted by bytebak

My first gen phone (week 26) has seen every update since release,Jailbroken since ibrikr,dropped,has spent 80% of its life in my pocket with my change and keys,and still does more better faster than any phone ever put on the market.my complaint is apple policy,but their product rocks.where i live they just got 3g a few weeks ago,but they have been selling the service for years,at&t even took 19.99 a month internet off the market (because its was cheaper than a regular plan i believe).a 3g iphone is ok but a 2g on tmobile is awesome!

Amen on that bro.

[jayson9]

Originally Posted by ima80baby

I don't care what you guys say. If a company puts out a product and makes a commercial, then they shouldn't make the commercial over exaggerate the products efficiency or anything else that potential customers are going to want. If I was selling monkeys and I told you that all of them could make pancakes, wouldn't you want that monkey to make pancakes if you bought it? The same thing applies here. You can't just tell people a product does something that it really doesn't and then expect them to act civilly about it. The fault here is clearly on Apple.

Bump................

[richardjones101]

all the people who complain are absolute **** heads, leave apple alone. If this was another brand, nothing would happen!

It's not the iPhone's problem, it's just the networks they are on. I have my iphone 2G on vodafone and i get quicker web results than a friend on his 3G (o2) It proves it's AT&T+O2 that are the ones to blame

[quiksand]

Originally Posted by Eurisko

I agree that anyone fully believing the Ads to be fact are foolish. You have to get your entire idea across in a 30 second commercial. And you can't be waiting in real-time for stuff to download in a commercial. What they say and what they show are two different things, and should be taken as such.

This is like filing a class action lawsuit against Tide because the commercial shows it gets the stains out in 5 seconds flat. Give me a break.

At least Tide pops up some sort of text and provides the actual time that elapsed to get those results. Before these lawsuits, Apple offered no such disclaimers.

[dale1v]

Originally Posted by richardjones101

all the people who complain are absolute **** heads, leave apple alone. If this was another brand, nothing would happen!

It's not the iPhone's problem, it's just the networks they are on. I have my iphone 2G on vodafone and i get quicker web results than a friend on his 3G (o2) It proves it's AT&T+O2 that are the ones to blame

If it were WinMO, you would probably throw a hissy about how MS are terrible. Now that Apple got caught doing something wrong, they were called out. Don't get upset because the pretty perfect company aren't so perfect! "leave apple alone"...what? Apple isn't a boy that gets bullied and has feelings, it's a multinational corporation with presence in so many countries. They don't care what you say, and it doesn't change their attitude!

If you're faster on vodafone on EDGE than your friend on 3G, then what the hell, why didn't Apple pick vodafone?! It was Apple that chose who they went with (they weren't forced, they chose who paid the most), so it can't be the networks fault alone.
Do some studying before throwing profanities around to defend Apple, and stop acting like it's only Apple who get caught up by authorities in stuff like this. It's not bullying, what the authorities did is protocol and I'm guessing they know more about adverts than you do.

Complete and utter fail.

[quiksand]

Originally Posted by richardjones101

all the people who complain are absolute **** heads, leave apple alone. If this was another brand, nothing would happen!

It's not the iPhone's problem, it's just the networks they are on. I have my iphone 2G on vodafone and i get quicker web results than a friend on his 3G (o2) It proves it's AT&T+O2 that are the ones to blame

It's not because people are **** heads, it's because no other phone made such claims. That's Apples' fault.

If it was a network issue, why did firmware upgrades seemingly fix the issues people were having on the networks?

[nimavafi]

hahahaha, this is great. Maybe Apple can team up with the makers of Enzyte and 'increase the size' of their products....

"What does the suit claim?
The suit claims the maker of Enzyte, Berkeley Premium Nutraceuticals (Berkeley), intentionally distributed false claims about Enzyte increasing the size of men’s genitalia. The suit also claims the company used deceptive and confusing materials to mislead customers into waiving their right to collect a refund."

What did the advertisements claim?
From Enzyte’s inception in 2001 throughout the summer of 2003, Berkeley placed Internet, radio, television and print advertisements with brazen claims about what Enzyte could accomplish, according to the suit. Some of the claims include:

* “The first all-natural male enhancement program that adds one to three inches to your size in just eight months or get double your money back”

* “100% Safe with a 98.3% Success Rate”

* “…your erectile chambers, as well as your penis, will enlarge up to 41%”

The suit states stronger claims came after customers purchased the product, including a statement from Berkeley saying, “most men report a one to three inch gain in length and 27% increase in roundness.”

Wasn’t it widely known that these types of claims were false?
No. The company’s sales prove that a substantial number of people believed the advertising claims. Berkeley posted $100 million in sales in 2003 and employs about 800 people to handle orders from customers nationwide.

What laws does the suit claim the defendants violated?
The suit claims Berkeley and other defendants violated Ohio’s consumer protection laws, as well as laws against negligent misrepresentation, unjust enrichment and fraud.


Sorry for the long post, but whats the difference in Enzyte saying it'll increase the size of your 'member' vs. Apple using a cached web page to portray high speeds?

[dale1v]

Originally Posted by nimavafi

hahahaha, this is great. Maybe Apple can team up with the makers of Enzyte and 'increase the size' of their products....

"What does the suit claim?
The suit claims the maker of Enzyte, Berkeley Premium Nutraceuticals (Berkeley), intentionally distributed false claims about Enzyte increasing the size of men’s genitalia. The suit also claims the company used deceptive and confusing materials to mislead customers into waiving their right to collect a refund."

What did the advertisements claim?
From Enzyte’s inception in 2001 throughout the summer of 2003, Berkeley placed Internet, radio, television and print advertisements with brazen claims about what Enzyte could accomplish, according to the suit. Some of the claims include:

* “The first all-natural male enhancement program that adds one to three inches to your size in just eight months or get double your money back”

* “100% Safe with a 98.3% Success Rate”

* “…your erectile chambers, as well as your penis, will enlarge up to 41%”

The suit states stronger claims came after customers purchased the product, including a statement from Berkeley saying, “most men report a one to three inch gain in length and 27% increase in roundness.”

Wasn’t it widely known that these types of claims were false?
No. The company’s sales prove that a substantial number of people believed the advertising claims. Berkeley posted $100 million in sales in 2003 and employs about 800 people to handle orders from customers nationwide.

What laws does the suit claim the defendants violated?
The suit claims Berkeley and other defendants violated Ohio’s consumer protection laws, as well as laws against negligent misrepresentation, unjust enrichment and fraud.


Sorry for the long post, but whats the difference in Enzyte saying it'll increase the size of your 'member' vs. Apple using a cached web page to portray high speeds?

Enzyte don't have an innovative touchscreen interface.