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Old 11-03-2008, 04:12 PM
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Opera Mini for iPhone Contradictions over App Store Denial

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It was just this past week that the New York Times announced that Opera’s Mini Browser had been rejected from the App Store. Opera was rejected as it writes its own Java Interpreter, which the iPhone SDK Agreement does not allow as this competes with Apple’s own Safari Browser. This practice has prompted heavy criticism from some circles.

The accuracy of this report has now come into question. PC World Magazine article writer Daniel Ionescu, quotes an Opera executive as saying that the Opera Browser was never even submitted to Apple’s App Store. Opera executive, Mr. Odland, told Ionescu, "Opera has not yet submitted a version of Opera Mini to Apple's App Store, but may do so in the future."

This directly contradicts what Opera CEO Jon Stephenson von Tetzchner told the New York Times last week about Apple’s denial. The article in PC World, suggests that this contradiction is nothing more than an aimed "publicity stunt," and if this so it would be the first time that Apple's own policies of secrecy/control have been used against them.

Furthermore, a recent post on Macrumors features content from noted blogger and researcher, John Gruber, who concludes based on his findings that, “information from informed sources who do not wish to be identified because they were not authorized by their employers, is that Opera has developed an iPhone version of Opera Mini - but they haven't even submitted it to Apple, let alone had it be rejected.”

Gruber had previously thought that the browser had been rejected due to a built-in JavaScript interpreter, however he thinks this was incorrect. Gruber now says that Opera Mini does not contain such interpretive code. Gruber explains,

“In a nut, it works like this: You request a URL in Opera Mini. Opera Mini makes the request to a proxy server run by Opera. Opera's proxy server connects to the web server hosting the requested URL, and renders the page into an image. This image is then transmitted (in a proprietary format called OBML - Opera Binary Markup Language) to the Opera Mini client. Opera Mini displays the rendered image on screen. This may sound convoluted, but apparently the result is very effective – its faster to transmit, because only OBML (a compressed binary format) is transmitted to the mobile device over the phone network, and far faster to render on slow mobile processors.”

However, the current version of the Opera Mini for other platforms is coded with Java, along with BREW and this is against the terms of the SDK. For Opera Mini to be made available in an official sense, it would have to be ported to C/Objective-C.

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Opera Mini Not Rejected? [Updated] - Mac Rumors
Report: Opera's Claims of App Store Denial a "Publicity Stunt" || The iPod Observer - Now Playing
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Old 11-03-2008, 04:30 PM
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i reckon opera would make a better web browser than the current safari. hope it does make it to the iphone community
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once again read this on another site and i think operas fight is strong but apple wont approve anything that makes its own product look bad. Its just common sense that opera would be better than Safari any day. i guaruntee there would be hacks for flash and other add ons for it too. i hope it gets released to the jailbreak community actually. i think that would be alot better and it would make much more progress there.
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What he said ^^^^
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agreed with what he said ^^^^
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i expect firefox ...
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This sounds like the classic case of the CEO saying more than he was supposed to say. Most probably he was correct in what hyas gone down between opera and Apple but he was supposed to claim that they had never submitted a thing...
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:41 PM
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No credit at all? I posted this in the previous opera thread a few days ago, linking to that exact article...
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once again read this on another site and i think operas fight is strong but apple wont approve anything that makes its own product look bad. Its just common sense that opera would be better than Safari any day. i guaruntee there would be hacks for flash and other add ons for it too. i hope it gets released to the jailbreak community actually. i think that would be alot better and it would make much more progress there.
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What he said ^^^^
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agreed with what he said ^^^^
What THOSE guys said ^^^^
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Old 03-10-2009, 03:20 PM
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I wonder how many good apps they reject and we dont see on the market.
There should be some sort of voting system via the community to see who is interested and who will buy via a mass newsletter to everone on itunes.
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