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    Yeah, none taken. I understand what you mean though and know you meant that as if I was just downloading without buying anything.

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    This is a joke. People actually think Apple and it's big bad lawyers are going to do anything about this? The movie industry spends ridiculous amounts of money on so called copy protections that get cracked as soon as they come out. The RIAA has sued many people, hell they'd sue a cat if it'd give them money but that hasn't done anything. There's just no stopping piracy. Come up with whatever drm schemes you want, sue whoever you want, do whatever you want but you aren't going to stop piracy. It's just a fact of this generation. If stealing a 42 inch plasma from best buy was as easy as downloading a cd sales of plasmas would plummet too. It's just too easy for people to do. And that has nothing to do with right or wrong. You can argue about right or wrong until youre dead but it's as useless as arguing about religion and politics.

    It's simple. Piracy won't be stopped so developers have to develop with that in mind. It sounds horrible to say that developers need to keep in mind that people are going to steal their apps and there's nothing they can do about it, but that's just the reality.
    Last edited by Jasper44; 2008-10-01 at 08:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oshawapilot View Post
    You know, you could replace the word "Appstore" with the name of just about any big software house out there and they'd still stand behind their reasoning for piracy.

    If an app looks like junk, don't buy it, simple. Wait a while, see what the reviews end up being, and perhaps look at it again in the future. If there's still any question, either find a free alternative (Cydia/Installer), or suck it up and go without. If it looks good, shell out the few dollars to give the bloody dev a pat on the back, and use the app.

    There are a few "expensive" apps in the appstore (if you can even call $10 "Expensive") that I didn't buy when they first came out because I wasn't sure if they were quality or not. I waited for some quality (non childish) reviews to trickle in and made a decision then, I didn't run off and pirate the app right away because I was in some way trying to justify in some strange way that I shouldn't need to pay because the app "might" suck.

    Personally, I hope Apple continues cracking down. I'd like the appstore to actually still have some developers around in a year or two developing applications. If piracy runs rampant there will be allot who will simply throw up their hands and give up on the platform since if 50% of their installations are pirated and they're only making pennies per actual legitimate sale (assuming a 99c app) it's probably not worth their time. Huge piracy numbers are more tolerable when your making $20, $40, $60 for a software package, but devs aren't going to waste their time given the appstore pricing structure if there's little to no ROI.

    The amount of cracked vs. legit apps will never come anywhere even close to 50% - 5% would be impressive. The majority of iPhone users (especially with the iPhone 3G opening the doors to many more users that couldn't afford the 2G) don't even know what jailbreaking is. I doubt there is a single developer who has 'given up' because his app is being pirated. If an app is popular enough to end up on one of those sites it has probably already been bought hundreds of times anyways. And an app that has only gotten 100 downloads on the app store could probably expect about 5 downloads on one of those sites. You're talking about millions of iPhone users vs. thousands of cracked app users (and even fewer who use them without paying if they like them or deleting if they don't)

    With that said, personally I haven't ever installed any cracked apps, as I never really saw anything on the app store that I wanted so badly. I haven't bought anything off of the app store either. I'm happy with the free apps on the app store and on Cydia

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    WillyDavidK (what a name!) said: "The amount of cracked vs. legit apps will never come anywhere even close to 50% - 5% would be impressive."

    I said:
    "I have yet to hear a cohesive argument that tells me cracked apps are OK. Truthfully, there are none. "
    Another example. Even 5% does NOT justify stealing! And thank you for your altruistic stance with your pusillanimous response and your poor attempt at justification!
    And Tom Frost said this: "I'm a bit torn on the issue. Sure, "piracy is bad" and blah blah blah, but what they're saying is right on. The only apps I buy anymore without trying them first are the big ones by major companies, because I've been burned too much by everything else. Good indie devs are getting screwed by Apple."
    Until Apple changes --- we are left with still being legit! And, thank you, Mr. Frost for a wise post.
    Last edited by mbaharvard; 2008-10-01 at 09:06 AM.

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    Dont Apple realise as soon as they shut down 1 site, 2 reopen.

    I'm thinking of starting a new page on my own site just for Apps.

    When Apple are not as rude to the users of thier iphone then I might stop using cracked apps. I know the devs are saying I'm stealing from them. Look at it from my side, Apple are so rude and stealing from me so blame them, they started it. :P

    The day I dont have to jailbreak my iphone and it works from day one with a new firmware is the day I pay for apps. Till then its free for me.

    Oh btw, I've brought apps from cydia/installer, just NOT from apple store.

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    To much arguing unfortunately. We do not promote stealing from hardworking developers. Cracked Apps Is Wrong. Period.

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