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    Default Microsoft AppStore = "Skymarket"
    With Apple's success so far with the AppStore and the Google's recent announcement of the Android Market Microsoft can't be far behind with a similar solution for Windows Mobile Devices expected to launch as early as 2009 and coincide with the release of Windows Mobile 7.



    Enter the Skymarket, recently revealed not by press conference but by job ad. The open position of Skymarket Senior Product Manager will be filled by an individual who will "make the Windows Mobile marketplace 'the place to be' for developers wishing to distribute and monetize their Windows Mobile applications."

    Other duties include:
    • Definition of the product offering, pricing, business model and policies that will make the Windows Mobile marketplace the place to be for developers wishing to distribute and monetize their Windows Mobile application
    • Responsibility for the business model and key elements that will drive the optimal experience for developers and monetization of the service by Microsoft
    • Preparation and driving the cross group collaboration for the initial launch of the marketplace offering to the developer community this fall
    • Preparation and driving the cross group collaboration with stakeholders in the commercial launch of the marketplace service with the launch of WM 7
    • Define and mange the consumer, developer and mobile operator value proposition and supporting materials for use by PR, MCBs developer outreach organization, and other teams across Microsoft
    • Working with multiple stakeholders (product team, product planning, developer outreach, business operations, legal and more) in definition on the process, policies and terms of use through which developers and consumers take part in the marketplace
    • Work closely with product planning on prioritization of consumer, developer, and mobile operator scenarios
    • Support business development on engagements with mobile operators and integration of the marketplace offering into broader Microsoft services offerings or discussions
    • Work closely with the Mobile Communication Business developer outreach organization
    • Management of KPIs for the service post launch


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    Apple started a new revolution with iPhone and now Microsoft is copying them...
    iPhone FTW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sayam View Post
    Apple started a new revolution with iPhone and now Microsoft is copying them...
    Duh. What else is new?
    ...Vista anyone?? Same thing.
    i LOVE apple.

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    It's always so businessy with microsoft.. =/

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    Hope "Skymarket" is better than App Store
    Seeing as App Store this morning crashed my iPhone and now it won't get past the Apple logo on start up
    Hate you App Store
    Last edited by MetallicaFan1991; 09-01-2008 at 09:33 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.T View Post
    Hope "Skymarket" is better than App Store
    Seeing as App Store this morning crashed my iPhone and now it won't get past the Apple logo on start up
    Hate you App Store

    um the crash thing hapens when u r jailbroken on 2.0.1 and you restart, i would upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.T View Post
    Hope "Skymarket" is better than App Store
    Seeing as App Store this morning crashed my iPhone and now it won't get past the Apple logo on start up
    Hate you App Store
    If you Jailbreak/unlock your phone? you run the risk of that your iphone will not act properly. so it not apples app store. it its an app that caused it its the developer not apple. and this is a Iphone forum not windows mobile forum. you you dont like your iphone sell it and go but a windows phone and have more issues.

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    Microsoft products = bluescreen of death mobile edition...or an endless reboot cycle like what happened to me on vista...skymarket should/ and will be called crymarket soon after its release :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beva922 View Post
    Microsoft products = bluescreen of death mobile edition...or an endless reboot cycle like what happened to me on vista...skymarket should/ and will be called crymarket soon after its release :P
    LMAO!!!! BSOD mobile edition!!lmao thats sooo tru... we all can already see it.....its only riight for micro. to launch somthing like this after they seen the huge success of the appstore....they would never reach the appstore numbers thoe....and as for developers, we all should ask them witch platform would they rather work with :-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beva922 View Post
    Microsoft products = bluescreen of death mobile edition...or an endless reboot cycle like what happened to me on vista...skymarket should/ and will be called crymarket soon after its release :P
    Apple products = spinning wheel of death..endless reboot.
    :[

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    Apple didnt start anything with the App store. But as always, they've once again managed to make a fairly old thing popular for the idiotic masses.

    Ah well, no reason for MS not to follow this route.
    Its a decent potential source of income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emir S. View Post
    Apple didnt start anything with the App store. But as always, they've once again managed to make a fairly old thing popular for the idiotic masses.
    Apple did start anything? Idiotic masses? So the App Store is for idiots? Care to explain what you mean?

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    Default come on now
    The iPhones platform is flawless, enough said....thats great for windows and stuff but how advance ur apps can get if your not workin with a decent platform.... come on now..... so let me guess, with all these apps coming out for windows you expect me to toggle apps with poor hardware?????LOL nooooooo im good...name a pce of hardware that tops the iphone??? thank you....my point.......im just sayin micro needs to step up there hardware befor they do anything with there apps....

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarlemState View Post
    The iPhones platform is flawless, enough said....thats great for windows and stuff but how advance ur apps can get if your not workin with a decent platform.... come on now..... so let me guess, with all these apps coming out for windows you expect me to toggle apps with poor hardware?????LOL nooooooo im good...name a pce of hardware that tops the iphone??? thank you....my point.......im just sayin micro needs to step up there hardware befor they do anything with there apps....
    1) Flawless (other than the frequent crashes and slowdowns)
    2) I'm pretty sure that android will be a decent enough platform, and even microsoft can't make a platform as buggy as the iPhone right now.
    3) Alot of hardware tops the iPhone- it may have the best touch screen, but it fails in basically every other way
    3) Hardware has little to do with the ability for the phone to run good apps- as long as it has enough processing power, the software is what determines the limitations that app creators have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dil999 View Post
    1) Flawless (other than the frequent crashes and slowdowns)
    2) I'm pretty sure that android will be a decent enough platform, and even microsoft can't make a platform as buggy as the iPhone right now.
    3) Alot of hardware tops the iPhone- it may have the best touch screen, but it fails in basically every other way
    3) Hardware has little to do with the ability for the phone to run good apps- as long as it has enough processing power, the software is what determines the limitations that app creators have.
    1) Frequency is ur location...fine round here, apps crash from time to time only tell developers what to tweek..
    2)android?? i got my money on the iphone...wats an android? is that like a commet or somthin...lol
    3)you can have all the processing power in the world but if your dealing with a poor platform/hardware its useless

    Quote Originally Posted by dale1v View Post
    A lot of Windows Mobile phones have better specs (and therefore better hardware) than iPhone...and its platform (2.0) isn't flawless, at all...

    edit: what Dil999 said ^
    Better Spects??? name one....there isnt any windows mobile phone out there that is developer friendly..... plzzzz
    Last edited by HarlemState; 09-01-2008 at 05:31 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarlemState View Post
    The iPhones platform is flawless, enough said....thats great for windows and stuff but how advance ur apps can get if your not workin with a decent platform.... come on now..... so let me guess, with all these apps coming out for windows you expect me to toggle apps with poor hardware?????LOL nooooooo im good...name a pce of hardware that tops the iphone??? thank you....my point.......im just sayin micro needs to step up there hardware befor they do anything with there apps....
    A lot of Windows Mobile phones have better specs (and therefore better hardware) than iPhone...and its platform (2.0) isn't flawless, at all...

    edit: what Dil999 said ^
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarlemState View Post
    The iPhones platform is flawless, enough said....thats great for windows and stuff but how advance ur apps can get if your not workin with a decent platform.... come on now..... so let me guess, with all these apps coming out for windows you expect me to toggle apps with poor hardware?????LOL nooooooo im good...name a pce of hardware that tops the iphone??? thank you....my point.......im just sayin micro needs to step up there hardware befor they do anything with there apps....
    You must be smoking something really good (or bad ). Let's see:

    1) Harwdware is quite solid, but not the best out there (screen is best, processing power is good, but connectivity to other devices is poor and memory upgradability is non-existent).

    2) 1.1.4 was quite solid. 2.00 and 2.01 (have not yet tried 2.02) are very very flaky (looks more like Windows ME than OSX). An application crash can bring the entire iphone down. This is so 1995... By the XXI century I expect a truly pre-emptive multitasking kernel that does not crash when an application crashes. Is that too much to ask?

    3) The SDK is too restrictive. I cannot have 2 official applications sharing information. I want to be able to opt-out of the sandbox if I want to! Fortunately Cydia's apps are out there and are much more powerful.

    4) Did I say 2.0x is very unstable and buggy? The other day a crash during an appstore upgrade of an application brought the iphone down to the point of needing a restore (would not boot past the stupid apple logo). HELLO!! This is a cell phone. At least the firmware should provide enough functionality to keep the PHONE part running. What if my phone crashed during a trip (and no access to my mac?). I'd be w/o a cell phone. This is NOT ACCEPTABLE.

    5) I am getting really tired of Steve Job$ compulsive disorder (he is a control freak!). It is my iphone, you moron, not yours. Stop putting roadblocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlos1w View Post
    You must be smoking something really good (or bad ). Let's see:

    1) Harwdware is quite solid, but not the best out there (screen is best, processing power is good, but connectivity to other devices is poor and memory upgradability is non-existent).

    2) 1.1.4 was quite solid. 2.00 and 2.01 (have not yet tried 2.02) are very very flaky (looks more like Windows ME than OSX). An application crash can bring the entire iphone down. This is so 1995... By the XXI century I expect a truly pre-emptive multitasking kernel that does not crash when an application crashes. Is that too much to ask?

    3) The SDK is too restrictive. I cannot have 2 official applications sharing information. I want to be able to opt-out of the sandbox if I want to! Fortunately Cydia's apps are out there and are much more powerful.

    4) Did I say 2.0x is very unstable and buggy? The other day a crash during an appstore upgrade of an application brought the iphone down to the point of needing a restore (would not boot past the stupid apple logo). HELLO!! This is a cell phone. At least the firmware should provide enough functionality to keep the PHONE part running. What if my phone crashed during a trip (and no access to my mac?). I'd be w/o a cell phone. This is NOT ACCEPTABLE.

    5) I am getting really tired of Steve Job$ compulsive disorder (he is a control freak!). It is my iphone, you moron, not yours. Stop putting roadblocks.
    I Agree. I could never use another phone again but they still need to correct some things regarding the mobile phone. ( IT IS a phone, remember? without cydia, installer, intelliscreen, app store, etc etc, IT'S #1 purpose is to make and receive telephone calls)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOrioles33 View Post
    Apple did start anything? Idiotic masses? So the App Store is for idiots? Care to explain what you mean?
    What I mean is that apt-get has been around for quite some time in the Linux community, including UME.

    It's also been part of iPhone hacking through pretty much day one (installer).
    Sadly, there are quite a few moronic people that are convinced that something so brilliant could only come from Cupertino, CA.

    Aside from that, every US carrier has had OTA game/software downloads for quite a few years now. VZW has GetItNow, ATT has...whatever they have...etc.
    Again, nothing new about OTA software distribution.

    It's the same old story of Apple and iPods.
    MP3 players have existed 3+ years prior to Apple's release of the 1st gen iPod. And yet, the "idiotic masses" that believe anything white and from Apple must be golden, have bought into it.

    Apple hasn't invented a single solid thing in the last 12 years.
    They have, however, been very successful in copying others ideas and improving upon them/making them popular and marketing to fanboys/fangirls.

    I have nothing against Apple's business strategy. It's based on the majority of the US population....completely uninformed sheep. It works and there is simply no reason to change it.
    I just wish people would educate themselves a bit more before they dive into Apple's "brilliant ideas"....or any companies, for that matter.

    That's all.

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    ^^I have to disagree, this is the first time wireless mobile apps have been accessible to this degree via the phone itself. However I feel the Appstore was somewhat poorly implemented and dislike the fact that 80% of the software available on the store is thrown together in an hour to "make a quick buck", the fact is its selling.

    Im hoping like every new release given a few months we will start to see a variety of well written, "real" apps expand into the Appstore. I dont mind paying $10-$20 for something I can actually use on a regular basis (If you have ever used Windows Mobile software, its not cheap....most programs will run you $10 - $50 depending).

    The fact is, with the strength of popularity for the iphone, even with its issues and underthought....Apple is still killing the market. We have already seen a number of devices released to "mimick" the iphone with minimal success compared. The strength of Microsoft's "SkyMarket" will only compare to the strength of devices out there, and that leaves alot to be desired for the majority.

    This is just a step forward for Microsoft, which is what every company's scope would be. I wish them luck, I dont see any reason why this wouldnt be a valuable source of income for them as well.

    In conclusion, I just hope Apple tightens up a bit. Just my 2 cents.

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