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Seems that there's one more part of the world except the poles where people are disinterested in iPhones. Also, seems that the polish people think of iPhone to be useless....
08-22-2008, 02:32 AM #1
Orange hires actors for Polish iPhone 3G launch!!
Seems that there's one more part of the world except the poles where people are disinterested in iPhones. Also, seems that the polish people think of iPhone to be useless.
Yes, you heard that right. Due to being distressed by the failure launch of iPhone 3G in Poland and really less crowd, Orange had to hire actors to line-up for the iPhone 3G launch to get some respect and attract some Media.
Even the Polish T-Mobile stores having the iPhone 3G doesn't have any rush in their stores.
So, how low can carriers go to sell their phone? This is just an example, wait for more like this.
Here's a video of those actors from Gazeta if you can understand Polish.
[Engadget via Gazeta & AppleBlog.pl]
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08-22-2008, 02:47 AM #2
Useless in what way I wonder.
08-22-2008, 03:29 AM #3
boo hoo! 2nd gen rocks!
08-22-2008, 03:36 AM #4
I'm gonna post this without trying to offend anyone. If you feel offended, I'm sorry, but it surely isn't my intention to do so. Since I'm a European myself (mediterranean, to be precise) I feel I can open up further the discussion.
It's a known fact that a company who intends to sell its product in Europe has to set up a completely different marketing strategy from the US one. Europeans are deemed to be less prone to products which are overhyped (just like the iPhone for example). If you followed the worldwide news the only queues on 11 July to buy the iphone were registered mostly in the US and we've barely heard of any queues in the UK, Germany, Italy or France.
And finally, let's admit it... it's a bit stupid to wait for hours in line when you can wait a couple of days or weeks and get it later in a more relaxed way. It kinda screams 'tech-slave'.
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08-22-2008, 03:38 AM #5
I think you are right.
08-22-2008, 04:46 AM #6
I went into Birmingham to find more queues outside O2 stores etc, and a big queue at the Apple store despite the fact they couldn't sell the phones. People were still queueing at Apple Birmingham at 17:00. The only reasons queues didn't continue at O2 stores was the fact they sold out of 16 gigs so quickly. Although I admit buying an 8gig that afternoon would have been a queueless affair.
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08-22-2008, 05:22 AM #7
Actresses, you say?
That must be why I would give the just about every female in that line a good penising.
08-22-2008, 05:34 AM #8
08-22-2008, 05:48 AM #9
08-22-2008, 07:45 AM #10
This is my first post here. I'm Polish and want to add some spice to this news, about ORANGE in my Country.
I live and work in UK where average incomes are around 2000 pounds a month (not sure, but around I think) and here I got my 18 month contract for iPhone from O2 for 45 pounds/month included 1200min, 500 SMS and 1 GB monthly internet allowance and I pay for iPhone 16GB - 59 pounds
I pay total for contract in O2 in UK:
869 pounds included 21600 min and 9000 massages
In Poland average income are around 800 pounds but its only so high because some mangers in Poland having crazy wages, but common people incomes are 500 a month.
Now in Polish ORANGE you can have contract
contract 36 months! 400min 270min inside network, 1050 sms, 2GB internet allowance will cost you 60 pound/month and you can have your iPhone for 1 polish zloty
Pay total for contract in ORANGE in Poland:
2160 pounds included 14,400 free min and 9720 inside Orange min, 37,800 sms
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08-22-2008, 08:27 AM #11
wow... ok... nice way of us know how life is in Poland... The average pay in UK is $4K?
Is that after taxes and insurance? I make 100K here and my take home after taxes and insurance and state Tax is just over 4K... and I thought I was high-end here...
London's calling... I am out y'all
08-22-2008, 08:52 AM #12
You can thank Uncle Sam for the lack of a social sub-system and high military taxes in the U.S.
When I was living in Germany I was making ca. $42K a year and still took home just bellow $3K a month. This is after VAT/Taxes, manditory insurance, development taxes, urbanization deductions, etc.
And the beauty was that no more money was going out of pocket towards those things.
In the U.S., after you get a third of your income deducted for various things, you are still left with insurance deductibles, road/bridge/tunnel tolls, local taxes, etc.
With insurance, going to a doctor in the U.S. is still a luxury under current conditions. Crossing bridges costs you between $3-$10 and traveling on interstate highways/thruways costs you tolls. (I live in NYC but when I was upstate, cost was still very similar yet income is generally lower).
That's what "the best military in the world" will cost you.....:sigh: silly Americans.
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08-22-2008, 08:58 AM #13
I'm not sure about this figures but look here
National Statistics Online
800 pounds in Poland is a S/F too, because they usually checking
big cities. I personally know more Poles incomes as 350 pounds.
London calling - I don't think so, I'm thinking to leave London now
and look for work in maybe Dubai, Shanghai etc.
Incomes like 2000 pounds nett per month are OK but look how
much you need to spend money for flat, food and other essentials.
Average rent 1 bed flat in London including gas, electric, council tax
will cost you 1000 pounds a month.
BTW London is a **** hole - trust me
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08-22-2008, 09:22 AM #14
I just want to work at Aston Martin and make a big wad of cash then go on a proper iPhone contract which isn't bad value anyway on O2-UK.
Hmmmm now only if we could get Land Rover/Range Rover, Jaguar, Bentley and Rolls Royce back to being full British instead of just the cars being made here
08-22-2008, 09:50 AM #15
Who cares? #1, it's Poland and #2, it's friggin' POLAND! I'm sure Poland is one of the world's top markets for smart phones.... Apple's stock is gonna take a big hit because of this news.
08-22-2008, 10:25 AM #16
Take a break from watching Fox news and you might find Europe to be quite different from what U.S. media feeds you.
Poland has come a LONG way since the 80s.
I know I was plesantly suprised back in '98.....and thats 10 years ago now.
08-22-2008, 10:37 AM #17
08-22-2008, 12:06 PM #18
America is the best one and only
Old (2001 - 2003) Telecommunications market statistics in Poland:
2001 2002* 2003* Total size of Polish Telecommunications market $9.4bln $9.66bln $9.8bln VoIP market $62.5mln $65.5mln $73mln Fixed-line telephone density (No of phones per 100 inhabitants) 30 31 32 No. of fixed-line telephones 11.5mln 11.8mln 12.2mln Number of cellular phone users 10mln 11.5mln 13.2mln Also, telecommunications carriers use Internet Protocol technology for routing their voice traffic although the actual size of this technology is very hard to estimate. Most market players are getting ready for the 2003 opening of the market by extending their full telecommunications offer including VoIP services. Since the beginning of 2002, URTP has registered over 20 new service providers, including 3 virtual mobile operators. Industry sources estimate that the VoIP services in international outgoing traffic will increase from 50,000 minutes in 2002 to 65 thousand in 2003 and close to 90 thousand in 2004. International incoming VoIP traffic is estimated at close to 800 thousand minutes in 2002 and is expected to increase to 870 thousand in 2003 and approximately 960 thousand minutes in 2004. Per the estimates of Gartner Group, in 2003-2005 most analog PBXs (private branch exchanges) in Poland will be replaced with equipment based on Internet protocols." (1) Mobile Telephony "The mobile telephony market has three major phone network operators in Poland: Centertel, belonging to TP S.A. capital group, Polkomtel S.A. and Polska Telefonia Cyfrowa S.A. These three mobile phone networks account for more than 11 million customers, already accounting for more users of fixed telephone lines. It is predicted that by the end of 2005, every other Pole will have his or her own mobile phone." (2) "The number of Poles with mobile phones in 2002 reached the 11.5 million mark, and is projected to be as many as 13.2 million by the end of 2003." (3) SOURCES (1) Kowalska, Maria. Trends in the ICT Sector. US Commercial Service - American Embassy in Warsaw. http://exportit.ita.doc.gov/ocbe/ForeignM.nsf/679c088699b484498525674e0000eb9f/392591742c5b4d0d85256c4800815b25!OpenDocument Last accessed December 9, 2002.
08-22-2008, 12:23 PM #19
iEat. iSleep. iPhone.
08-22-2008, 12:35 PM #20
Learn to wait... patience is a virtue!
In Europe the only places you're gonna find queues are in cultural museums... and... well... theme parks!