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08-22-2008, 11:26 AM #81
Does it really matter whose fault it is that the iphone 3g sucks in some places? At all? If shes not satisfied and wants a class-action, let her do it! then we can all pretend to have the same problem and get in on the money. So all of you jealous iPhone 1st gen owners stop complaining and let us have our free money.
08-22-2008, 01:11 PM #82
Although, I have to admit that my reception is not that bad, but it is definitely worse than my first-gen was.iEat. iSleep. iPhone.
08-22-2008, 01:14 PM #83
wow. i think ill go sue snickers for not having more peanuts, as it says. america is so sue happy. i hope apple just kicks her ***.
08-22-2008, 01:32 PM #84
I gotten up to 583 kbps vs 193 kbps on edge. That's almost 3 times the speed. Sounds like this biznatch has nothing better to do than extort money from corporations. The price of litigation is just passed along to the consumer in the form of higher prices. So once again thanks biznatch.
08-22-2008, 01:36 PM #85
Get a friggin life or maybe she doesn;'t and needs to sue somebody so she has money.
Sorry but this is SOOOO typical of the U.S. the most litigious nation in the world.
08-22-2008, 01:42 PM #86
You fuckheads just can't blame Ma and Pa Apple for ANYTHING can you. They are NEVER at fault with you morons. I love the iPhone, but I stay away from most of you Mac idiots for exactly that reason. You can't EVER criticize Apple for making a ****** product or screwing its' customers repeatedly. My old Blackjack gets full bars and 3G in downtown Atlanta, while holding the iPhone in my other hand it doesn't get a damn thing. Not a single bar, works great on Edge. At my parents house in NE Atlanta, EXACT SAME THING!!! The radio/software is absolute garbage in the 3G phone. How come the wonderful iPhone can't get a signal, but a much abused Samsung Blackjack performs flawlessly in the same place as the iPhone yet repeatedly outperforms it? The carrier? Nope.
Keep your nationalistic ******** to yourself. There is no need for insulting an entire country because one single person does something you disagree with.
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08-22-2008, 02:12 PM #90
As far as my language goes, I've never heard a more vile speaking group of people than the 12-15 year olds playing Xbox or some other anonymous media outlet. As soon as the parents are away they would make a sailor of old blush with their speech. And I'm the only one who has actually spelled out the foul words and not substituted it for some other stupid word.
08-22-2008, 02:16 PM #91
Look, yes this topic does bring up some great opinions, but to turn around and start bashing each other for what someone has to say is completely uncalled for. The forums should be a place where everyone can post. Please try and keep this in mind.
Proud to be an Apple user since 1990... at the age of 4.
08-22-2008, 03:00 PM #92
08-22-2008, 03:11 PM #93
first the excuse is... " No 3g? " then now you wanna say that the radio chip in the 3g isnt good enough?..
Im sorry but what some of you fail to realize. and myself included when i got my iphone was that AT&T's GSM network is the worst possible network you could be on.. Proof's in the pudding... just look at the numbers.
08-22-2008, 03:25 PM #94
your fault you bought the phone.
could have been happy with the nokia.
besides dropping calls is the carrier's fault, not apple.
same with the data speed.
08-22-2008, 06:01 PM #95
Shall we examine the merrits?
1) Apple has an exclusive contract in the US with ATT.
2) Apple, knowingly makes a claim concerning data speed and price.
3) Apple's contract carrier is unable to live up to the advirtising claims that Apple is making
4) Apple admits that poor call quality could be related to a problem with the sim card aka manufacturing defect
5) Apple attempts to fix their manufacturing defect with a software patch that is imperfect and there by assumes responsibility for the defect by issuing the patch.
6) Apple is sued of the defect.
Basically, this is a false advirtizing law suit. Apple said it would deliver X. Apple has failed to deliver it. The lawsuit has merrits.
Kinda like the special order tires that Ford ordered from Firestone and put on their explorers. Even though the tires had a name brand on them, they were only available as OEM Factory equipment. As such, when these specialty tires started to fail, Ford was liable even though they didnt manufacture the tires themselves. Apple may not offer the service, but their provider is specific and the providers capabilities were known at the time of the advirtisment. We may end up getting free phones out of this, that would break my heart!
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08-22-2008, 06:32 PM #96
More idiots that dont know what they are talking about. It is apples 3G antenna that is faulty. In places where my friend gets 5 3G bars on his samsung ATT phone, I get maybe 1 at about -98 to -113 dB. Terrible, its not really the services fault, its Apples fault. They should have went with Qualcomm, if the banning has been disbanded, or any 45nm 3G cellular chipset which supports UMTS.
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08-22-2008, 07:31 PM #97
see Stella Awards.
08-23-2008, 12:47 AM #98
apple will probably blame at&t
08-23-2008, 01:32 AM #99
you all are idiots... My 3G works perfect and is plenty faster than Edge.. I use NetShare and can't even feel the difference between wifi and 3G..
I don't drop calls, and I live in the southern part of Missouri, Springfield, MO to be exact...
08-23-2008, 01:50 AM #100
Another person stated this on a different forum...
A buyer who receives a defective product can elect to either a) return the goods for a refund or b) give the seller reasonable notice and reasonable amount of time to remedy the defect. The law gives the consumer the choice here. The seller can then choose to either fix the defect or if it can't, issue a refund. There is no requirement that a consumer has to return a defective product. The only requirement is that it notify the seller. Apple did not tell everyone: "we cannot fix this issue, therefore you must return your phone". They said quite the opposite actually. Relying on this promise to remedy, many of us kept our phones. It was Apple who elected, after being notified, not to end our contracts because they felt they could fix the defect.
I do not know where everyone gets the idea that a refund policy somehow absolves a company of its duties and warranties. A refund policy is simply a termination clause in a contract.
That being said, I do think the lawsuit was filed prematurely, but it is certainly not without merit. It remains to be seen what the actual problem is, and if Apple can fix these issues adequately.