[Muggz5]

Well yes its a bit of paranoia, but in the same respect I dont download anything without reading about it first. Id just rather not install something until its proven to work and be a legitimate application. So the use for this "KillSwitch" so to speak is not really neccessary. I embrace the fact our government is involved, and unless you are doing something illegal who cares if the government is listening/watching? They do protect us, and for the most part The Patriot Act was a step int he right direction. The only issue with this is its harder to get mandatory State/Federal licenses, permits, and day to day things done, etc. (you get my point) But since we are technically "breaking the law" with our phones by jailbreaking, unlocking, Id rather have less and less communication with Apple.

[lightmaster]

Originally Posted by Muggz5

So the use for this "KillSwitch" so to speak is not really neccessary. I embrace the fact our government is involved, and unless you are doing something illegal who cares if the government is listening/watching? They do protect us, and for the most part The Patriot Act was a step int he right direction.

If your referring to my last post, I wasn't saying that the government is or isn't involved, I was referencing the governments ability to bypass the Patriot's Act and listen to our conversations if its in the name of our protections, and I was comparing that to Apple's new ability to peek into our iPhones/iTouches. It was only a comparison. As far as I know, the government isn't involved in anyway. Sorry about the confusion.

[Muggz5]

Originally Posted by lightmaster

If your referring to my last post, I wasn't saying that the government is or isn't involved, I was referencing the governments ability to bypass the Patriot's Act and listen to our conversations if its in the name of our protections, and I was comparing that to Apple's new ability to peek into our iPhones/iTouches. It was only a comparison. As far as I know, the government isn't involved in anyway. Sorry about the confusion.

Indeed Im not saying either of the 2 are related, and was simply supporting your comments and giving my take on them. Also giving my point of view as far as what this "killswitch" means to me. The big brother thing is stupid, Im just saying the less they know about my phone and how I use it the better. Unless they plan on enabling all GSM carriers and need more input to make a better phone.

[Travace]

they are just covering thier own asses.

if someone sneaks a malicious app into the store.. or something that is illegal they need a feature like this to take care of it for the people who already got the malicious or illegal stuff on their iphones.

I know for hackers this is Bad News but for Apple its a pretty smart way to cover their ***.

[Fear1508]

Lol actually they would give you your money back. Your purchase transaction occurs through your iTunes account. It isn't hard for apple to merely refund everyone, because they have your credit information, all refunds would be done through a single run, just by a simple scan to detect the apps removed from which users then just refunded with a click... Refunding apps in that case is not a big problem for apple, it is there responsibility that they inspect apps before released, so what ever money they lose by having to recall that app it is their own fault.

[Macboy67]

Don't you have to SSH into your iPhone to disable that????

[volcom]

ha so many people said it dosen't not this proves that is does

[Muggz5]

Originally Posted by Macboy67

Don't you have to SSH into your iPhone to disable that????

yes.

[redhouse101]

has the step by step process been comfirmed yet.? it is stated "add the following entry into /etc/hosts:" where is this step located? Is it in pnwange when one builds a new image?

[jayson9]

I think our governent set a bad precedent, and now we will all suffer from corporate phishing. They only have been wanting to this since the beggining of the twisted pair.

[97vrsix]

I think their is more then one type of user in this forum! People with phone contracts, people with iPods, and people with out phone contracts. If you have a contract with someone, and you got a deal on your phone, then for how ever long that contract is, they sort of still own your stuff, if you want to be honest. Now for those others who out right own their phone, and don't have a contract, then it's a little different. I own my phone, paid out right for it. And I use t-mobile. Tmo does not care what I do for it or with it. Should apple? Well I guess they want to, and it does say on the bottom of the box for use with AT&T only! But if we can buy full price from the store, then that should not even matter.

I guess what I am saying is, it depends on how you got your stuff! If you honestly own it, then they should have no control. We are after all just testers! If we start to re sell their stuff, and label it a polished pile of poo, they will get mad.

I'm happy that if an app store app does f-up they can pull it, but that's all they should me able to do, pull their own apps, see nothing else!

[Muggz5]

Don't you have to SSH into your iPhone to disable that????

Not any more!
Go Into your BossPrefs and click the "more" tab
He's added a killswitch disable option at the bottom! pretty cool stuff.