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01-02-2008, 01:29 PM #221
That man makes a good point as well!
01-02-2008, 02:53 PM #222
So much crap, so little time.
a) this update may not be the bee's knees, but it's an update that's worthwhile, and it shows that Apple's sticking to their plan and catering to the folks who've honored their agreements. Ain't much point in them catering to the hacker community, since soon it won't be a hacker community anymore, it'll be a much more open process.
c) Apple rolled out the new platform without an SDK because they wanted to get the device in our hands without delay. They've been hard at work building a software development framework that allows flexibility without sacrificing stability or security, and once that's done, the platform as a whole will be much more mature and ready for growth (kinda like Mac OS X).
c) The fact of the matter is, right now, developers are building their apps on top of a still-not-quite-fully-baked foundation. You don't really want to build the world's tallest skyscraper on quicksand, but that's kinda what our current 3rd-party developers are doing. There are many reasons why each update kills jailbreaks and unlocks. And there are many reasons why most apps for iPhone and iPod Touch are in perpetual beta. The platform isn't mature yet. And anyone who points the finger at Apple for knocking down their sand castle is just too blind to realize that they built it too close to high tide. There's a path to stability, and Apple's development team knows far better how to get it done than you do. I, for one, can't wait until Apple's plan comes to fruition (although I know the whiners and ******* will always find reasons to whine and *****).
d) I've got it on good authority from someone at Apple that, very soon, we'll all be very glad we've got iPhones. This 1.1.3 update is absolutely nothing, apparently. I've no idea what that means, but I'm stoked.
01-02-2008, 03:21 PM #223Updated 2 phones today.
i did 2 phones today, 112 oob~~rolled down to..111..jail+okprep...update 2 itunes back 2 ... 112...jail and no probs...phones work w/stealth no probs
01-02-2008, 03:24 PM #224
he makes a really good point!!
allthough for apple there are no lose situations now. The thing is apple obviously has to upgrade its little golden toy to keep up with the contract with ATT and the buyers complains and sujestions, but for apple its still an upgrade it doesnt mean anything. They get more money from the new upgrade from ATT monthly revenue that from the jailbroken ones but still apple doesnt care about the jailbroken ones because once they get the new upgrade on the market ATT wont sell the oldone for less they will just sell the new one, and for apple the other versions are just profits from everyone else that doesnt have ATT. So its a win win situation
01-02-2008, 03:41 PM #225
01-02-2008, 07:05 PM #226
And STEVE.J knows that the only reason the iphone is selling really good is because its getting unlocked/modded so more people buy it international+local.
Why would he include a new Baseband if he knew that leads to unlocking the OTB 1.1.2 firmware its because he just wants Sales.
So yeah APPLE are making a 2 way profits both from its ATT customers and unlocking/modding customers.
AND I GUESS THATS WHAT THEY WANT.
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01-02-2008, 07:30 PM #227
01-02-2008, 07:58 PM #228
PSPSULLY is part of the DEV team and he/she confirmed it, that 1.1.3 has a new baseband.
AND THEY HAVE IT the 1.1.3 IPSWIphone Love... I dreamed of a iphone before it was out..
01-02-2008, 08:12 PM #229
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01-02-2008, 08:36 PM #230
01-02-2008, 09:57 PM #231
This just in from Gizmodo..
Apple will release an iPhone software update during MacWorld Expo 2008, well informed sources confirmed MacScoop. But it appears that the unpolished iPhone sofware version recently leaked on the Internet doesn't include all the features of the final release.
The reports we obtained claim that the software update will add copy-paste, which is one of the most requested features by iPhone users, and will provide a few user interface improvements.
Additionally, the update should provide better stability and performance for the device which sometimes suffers from UI glitches and application hangs in its current version.
Sources also confirmed recent reports claiming that a soon to be released iPhone software update will offer very improved Google Maps with localization and hybrid view, mass SMS sending and multi-page editable home screen.
It is not out of question that other, non revealed yet features, appear with this update, our sources said. Be sure that we'lll keep you updated in case we obtain more information.
01-03-2008, 01:23 AM #232
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01-03-2008, 10:10 AM #235
The point is not a GearLive icon on the springboard .... Any web site you are viewing, you click the add bookmark and you have the option of adding the site to your regular bookmarks or putting an icon for that site on your springboard. You could go to MMi, click bookmark and add an MMi icon to your springboard and you are good to go. This is the reason for multiple pages, not third party apps. Its also why they are giving you drag and drop rearranging, so you can organize the bookmarks you place on your springboard... To me, that is an awesome idea, though I think Erica has a package to do that, but its not a simple installer app. This would basicaly render things like the home page MMi web application directory unnecessary. Instead of bringing up a browser shortcut and then having a pseduo springboard of your web apps, you can have links to the web apps on the real springboard.... That is one I am actually looking forward to.
01-03-2008, 10:39 AM #236
Now the news are saying 1.1.3 has copy and paste....Finally.
Boy, I am wishing 1.1.3 can be jailbroken and unlocked.
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01-03-2008, 11:07 AM #237
this is so funny. it's one thing to discuss the possibilities of the new firmware and try and forecast the date etc but there is no way to know FOR SURE what is going to be included and what it means for 1.1.2 OTB. what's the point of asking questions about something that doesn't really 'exist' right now (only to GL)?
If you dont trust the vid they posted up fine but don't try and sway other people with your pessimistic opinion. it's just leads to more speculation and more and more false rumors to stir the pot.
I for one think it's legit. There are less than 2 wks until MacWorld Expo for goodness sakes!!
01-03-2008, 01:20 PM #238
First, you have no idea what percentage of sold iPhones are unlocked. Whatever news you've read, it's all guesswork. Nobody knows.
Second, even if you're anywhere near right, let's say 3 million of the phones sold are locked to AT&T, and the rest are unlocked. You may think it's a win-win situation for Apple either way, and that the percentage of monthly revenue from AT&T contracts is just so damn small that it couldn't amount to vastly more money than all those unlocked phones...but I think you're forgetting to multiply that number by 3 million and put it in Apple's bank account <em>every single month</em>. Hell, I think any way you slice it, unlocked phones just aren't the best thing for Apple's bottom line.
Third. You may think AT&T is the devil (I'll grant that ALL cell carriers reek of brimstone), but the truth of the matter is that Apple does need partners in order to get further in any market, especially a new one (to them). And they need to keep this particular partner happy, lest they ruin their own reputation as "a reliable business ally." If they screw AT&T, I find it hard to believe they'd get very far in the future.
Fourth. A little skepticism would probably be good for you. I appreciate your optimism, but the truth is you seem to be believing (and relying on) a lot of information that you can't personally verify. I really hope you don't get let down.
Truth be told, most (if not all) of the stuff about "Apple's making software decisions that are devious in order to play both sides of the fence," or "they're doing everything they can to wreck our hacking efforts," is just paranoid crap. Their developers are likely way overworked and haven't quite got the time to do anything so freakishly devious, and they <em>certainly</em> haven't got the time to constantly re-adjust their development strategy to accommodate the unsupported 3rd-party developer community (yet...they're building a framework/sandbox to handle that). Try to put yourself in their shoes. It ain't just "shrewd old Steve Jobs," it's a bunch of dudes like you and me, just doing their job to try and make a budding platform even better, taking their time so they don't screw it up like Microsoft would.
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01-03-2008, 01:35 PM #239
any way to get this on my 1.1.1 ipod touch ?
01-03-2008, 03:02 PM #240
copy paste ha ha I'd like to see how they do this