[swedes_hack_iphones]

so you cant restore it at home then? or will you be able to and it will always be activated?

[jfmsam]

Originally Posted by holewheat

So I can get a new iPhone for $375 if I am on T-Mobile? $200 for the iPhone and $175 for the contract termination.

Best bet is you stay with iPhone 1st gen if you are a T-Mobile user. Unless you really want the GPS feature, there is no real advantage for you to buy a 3G phone that won't work on T-Mobiles 1700 Mhz 3G network.

Originally Posted by .:MirrorminD:.

What's up with the data and SMS pricing?
Well, Apple will be in 70 countries (and counting) this year, so you'll get different plans from region to region. But in the US, users will have to sign up for a minute plan that includes an extra $30 rate for 3G data access (and has no bundled text messages). This is $10 more than the original iPhone's rate plan, which was $20 for data and 200 included SMSs. Matching voice plans start at $40 per month, so you'll basically be able to get started at $70 per month.

In all fairness:

AT&T jacked up the prices in all of their data plans (Personal and Corporate). These apply to all 3G smartphones. Apple's iPhone 3G may have influenced this change but it is too much to think it was the sole reason for this price change.

AT&T has updated their EDGE network to HSDPA for the most part of the country. You can't expect to pay the same amount for a data service that is now 2x to 3.5x performance of the previous EDGE and with up to 1.4 Mbps. Its like you expecting to pay Dial-UP rates for Broadband speeds.

I tried to compare Verizon's and Sprint's rates for their EVDO and AT&T seems competitive with their new service.

[88five-oh]

so how much will it be at full price? will they even sell it that way?

[Happy Noodle Boy]

Originally Posted by 88five-oh

so how much will it be at full price? will they even sell it that way?

Certain countries in Europe (and Australia) have released non-subsidized prices for the 8gb/16gb models. They're around €400-500 in Europe and 350 in Australia.

[mattcai]

soo how much more will the plan cost if sms bundle is added on O.O?

[thetoothfairy]

I would like to know a few things myself.....

1. What happens if the phones we have right now puke since they are not making the ones we have anymore?

2. As far as buying from other countries... what may happen is when Apple goes to let these other countries get them they might be on a different type of contract with them and they might be able to only sell them by contract over there as well? I am sure that Apple tends to control what is what when they go to sell them to other countries as well...

3. Someone said that Apple shouldn't have went with ATT... who do you think they should have went with? I felt Verizon but Verizon didn't want to and I hope they are bummed now that they didn't!

4. With the 3G is it like the edge as far as being able to pick it up and sometimes not? Or will it be this way... if a area or state doesn't have it your out of luck trying to get out on the net etc?

[akosko01]

Originally Posted by teriyakiboy13

Is there anyway to get the 3g iphone without making the plan longer? Im in a family plan right now and i dont want to change the plan just cuz of me upgrading my phone...

you dont have to change your plan. it just changes the length of the contract.

As far as the increased data price goes. AT&T has had the same data pricing for quite some time now. Their blackberry and pda plans have been 30 for a personal unlimited data plan and 45 for corporate data plans and none of them include messaging. The iPhone plan is simply the same monthly cost as any other smartphone you can get from AT&T but you are getting a FAR better, more responsive phone for about the same upfront cost or less in some cases(AT&T Tilt). I like blackberry but i would definately pay the extra $100 to get the new iPhone.

[PhaedruS]

you won't just be incurring an extra $10. i'm sure everyone here uses their text messaging as if it were Instant Messaging, hence the 300 page bill that got the delivered that first month (it was only the first month right?....go cancel paper billing! then come back & read.) the new 3G $30 data plan doesn't include any texting, so you'll likely add unlimited texting for another $20 or so.
as it stands now, i have no motivation to purchase the 3G iPhone on the 11th. i really wanted video recording, & a laser beam type function.

[erix920]

AT&T and Apple really did the right thing to get money in the long run. With the new plan (3g) they will make $720 in two years. With the old plan (2g) it's $480 for two years (just comparing theres no 2 year contract price you missed). You may think $200 is cheap and it is, just remember the $30/m data plan you signed up for WITHOUT text messaging, that's another $30/m for unlimited.

So yea i'd stick with the 1st gen phone for right now unless you are constantly traveling or are always away from WAN and need the 3g speed.

[PhoneLine]

the texting thing is what really irks me. I was set to buy one and will glady pay an extra 10 dollars a month, if that did include the texting.

But without that, I'll stick with the first gen. 90 percent of the time I am on WiFi anyway, so the 3g is really not a huge deal. The GPS would be cool, but not at the cost of raising my bill 30-40 dollars a month.....(10 plus whatever texting would be) 10 a month yes, 30 a month or more.....I'll just buy a garmin.

[smitty92]

Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy

Certain countries in Europe (and Australia) have released non-subsidized prices for the 8gb/16gb models. They're around €400-500 in Europe and 350 in Australia.

whats that equal in us dollars

[skyote]

According to the leaked internal AT&T memo:

"Customers intending to use the iPhone 3G for access to corporate e-mail, business applications, or access to corporate intranet are required to activate with Enterprise Data Plan for iPhone."

So if I plan to use Microsoft Exchange to check my work email do I have to pay the other extra $10.00 for the enterprise plan? If I don't pay it, can they deny access to Microsoft Exchange?

[suprmallet]

I think that's meant to be more for corporate plans (i.e. corporations buying phones for their employees or paying for employees to buy phones) and not individuals who happen to use their phones for a few business purposes.

[jaredb03]

there is no 3g around my area, the closest is about 200+ miles away so i don't plan on using the 3g. will i be able to get the new phone but keep my same data and text plan without the 3g feature for the same price?

[stewkat]

Originally Posted by jaredb03

there is no 3g around my area, the closest is about 200+ miles away so i don't plan on using the 3g. will i be able to get the new phone but keep my same data and text plan without the 3g feature for the same price?

Or, would it work to get an unlocked 3g and keep your same data plan, but be able to get the 3g speeds? 3g is in my area but an extra 30 bucks a month for data and texts doesn't excite me.