[Eurisko]

Originally Posted by randyg

I was wondering to myself what will all the whiners do when they start allowing 3rd party apps on the iPhone. Guess I didn't have to wait long for that answer did I?

Whaaaaaa, they're going to let third party apps on the iPhone, Whaaaaaa We're going to have a whole new whack of cleverly crafted apps to help in our everyday lives. Whaaaaaa

[Cody Overcash]

Originally Posted by cash7c3

so hostile. on both sides of this little (stupid/useless/inane) argument. jeeze folks need to grow up. you all have huge internet dicks, it shows, and they impress me. really. no joke.

just quoting myself since I'm the only one capable of making a usefull post in this thread.

@ those excited about apple releasing the SDK even though it will probably lead to apps that a) cost money or b) have all sorts of limits for who is allowed to develop for the iphone, thus cancelling out great developers.

Great you have every right to be excited that apple is actually making some effort towards what consumers actually want.

@ those that think that this is evil and is going to kill native app development etc etc etc.

It wont, we'll still be modding.

There is really no nasty debate to be had except by unreasonable idiots. Its all about internet **** size. Great you all win. A+

[Alperovich]

I'd defiantly have to agree this is a good thing. It'll open up apps that you'll probably buy thru mobile itunes store. that'll install like they do on installer app or whatever, and you'll still have your installer app there to install freeware, they'll probably be even better b/c of the sdk. this is a good deal for all involved. as been said, this isn't the end for modding our phones. some things we'll always have to take into our own hands.

[coreym@cfl.rr.com]

Originally Posted by drkmstr

Ever own a palm? Just about all 3rd party apps were fee based. Come now people... if it is good it will be worth paying for.

I am sure there will be some freeware but most decent programs will be fee based.

That is not all true! I owned several palms and TREOs I had MANY very good FREE apps.

[Thailocalguy808]

haha sweet i turned my bricked phone in a couple days ago to apple they gave me a new one im such a fibber n e ways had bricked it using one these tutorials so now im stuck with 1.1.1. so i thought and i was really hard minded on trying any of these things ever again so i got the balls to finally do something i really wanted my third party apps back well for any of you that are using 1.1.1. already and never used anysim or any unlocking technic go use ibrickr the version 9 one it will run u through the complete process of downgrading to 1.0.2 you WILL NOT even need to downgrade the baseband once u install 1.0.2 jus go ahead and drop in the installerapp v1.0.2 and there u go u got your phone back to 1.0.2 jailbroken and can have ur third party apps back and may i add the apps work jus fine

[MOSHO92]

Originally Posted by drkmstr

Ever own a palm? Just about all 3rd party apps were fee based. Come now people... if it is good it will be worth paying for.

I am sure there will be some freeware but most decent programs will be fee based.

Good point! The iPhone OS has much more flexibility than a palm given the multitouch interface, I think we will see some amazing apps once there is a profit to be made. Not that I would belittle any of the current apps (which are amazing) but once there is money to be made, developers will have much more incentive to dedicate resources to iPhone apps.

My main concern is that Apple wont allow full access for developers. If Apple cripples developers access to the OS, 3rd party apps will be only slightly more useful than web-apps; in which case I'll probably still be running FW 1.0.2 in February.

Time will tell!

[Eurisko]

Originally Posted by cash7c3

There is really no nasty debate to be had except by unreasonable idiots. Its all about internet **** size. Great you all win. A+

Damn right cash. But I've found you can't have a reasonable debate with unreasonable people, the only thing they truly understand is when you respond to them in their own limited language and comprehension. Sorry about that.

[EasyMac30]

Originally Posted by JedixJarf

Why would steve positively acknoledge a group of hackers who cut his revenue?

And exactly what revenue did the Dev Team take from Apple?

Their kickback from AT&T (for those who switched to T-Mobile)?

Or was it all of these 3rd party apps? YES!!!

We haven't been buying any 3rd party apps in iTunes....wait.....

[DoerrFan]

Its about time

[buddyyou69]

these sucker finally cave in!!! apps, anyone?

[LGgeek]

I'm sticking with all the apps I have including Apolllo , etc until each of the apps developers can issue new versions using the SDK. If they aren't allowed to use the SDK then I will not be upgrading anytime in the near future.

I have no problem paying for apps ( I always do shareware/donationware fees)
as long as the money goes to the devs that have worked so hard.

Originally Posted by jealous soul

Let's hire the team that singlehandedly corrupted many consumers basebands and made their phones unusable. Great idea.

No Apple did that.

[cawaker]

This is very cool, but i bet it'll be exactly like the games for the ipod. personally tested and code checked by apple and sold via itms.

theres just no other way to ensure the security that they want.

which is fine by me, at least it wont be tons of crappy apps that crash the phone constantly like a Treo.

granted it'll all cost money too that kinda sucks, but i dont mind paying for quality.

[sftl99]

Originally Posted by jayson9

sure...... but then we would have to pay for all those cool apps!

Probably better to keep it the way it is......

I just hope I don't have to pay for the apps I've already donated to.

At the same time, if the price is reasonable enough, it would be awesome to get to reward some of the hard working people that have already been working their arses off for us.


Some people seem scared that this will kill some of their other apps. I'm sure at first it will, but cracking a digital signature will be easier than jailbreaking and all that other crap. I'm still on 1.0.2 cause I don't feel like figuring out how to do all the 1.1.1 stuff. Correct me if I'm wrong, it just seems like it'd be easier.

One downfall...we'll be stuck with iTunes for apps instead of Installer.app! That'll suck!

LGgeek, you quoted jealous soul:

Let's hire the team that singlehandedly corrupted many consumers basebands and made their phones unusable. Great idea.

Originally Posted by LGgeek

No Apple did that.

Actually, HE bricked his phone. Everyone and their cousin warned against updating to 1.1.1, if he didn't listen, HE bricked his own phone. There are plenty of T-Mobilers out there using their 1.0.2 iPhones with no issue.

[DoerrFan]

Originally Posted by sftl99

I just hope I don't have to pay for the apps I've already donated to.

At the same time, if the price is reasonable enough, it would be awesome to get to reward some of the hard working people that have already been working their arses off for us.


Some people seem scared that this will kill some of their other apps. I'm sure at first it will, but cracking a digital signature will be easier than jailbreaking and all that other crap. I'm still on 1.0.2 cause I don't feel like figuring out how to do all the 1.1.1 stuff. Correct me if I'm wrong, it just seems like it'd be easier.

One downfall...we'll be stuck with iTunes for apps instead of Installer.app! That'll suck!

LGgeek, you quoted jealous soul:


Actually, HE bricked his phone. Everyone and their cousin warned against updating to 1.1.1, if he didn't listen, HE bricked his own phone. There are plenty of T-Mobilers out there using their 1.0.2 iPhones with no issue.

I agree, unless the Dev's put him under gunpoint to do the unlock and then update....his fault not anyone elses.

[Apple Head]

bad news apple is SELLING the way to install APPROVED third-party apps (i called the apple store in Pebody)