[nevarDeath]

I am what you would call a 'classicly oriented' programmer. NOT an OO programmer. Even when I learned C, I avoided using data structures and such. I am now paying for it. I have scoured the net trying to find that magical tutorial that puts it together for me so simply for me to understand and remember. So I've gotten Erica Sadun's latest book, and other assorted books, found tutorials, but they are just really hard for me to understand and remember crap. I hate tutorials that go for pages with no code for me to refer to, or code not explained very well, it just confuses the $h1t out of me!! Currently, the best thing I've got going is this book:
Programming Mac OS X with Cocoa for beginners/Some Cocoa essential principles - Wikibooks, collection of open-content textbooks

that is for OSX, but I believe I can adapt to iPhone pretty easily once I UNDERSTAND the language. I think that I should just try to start from the beginning, but in my brain I try to relate it to my old programming knowledge and it's hard to stop doing that. I wish I'd never programmed anything before! So my question is

Does anyone know of any good complete beginners tutorials for objective C?

[Rip]

I feel your pain.

I grew up on C and Pascal (also Fortran and Cobol!) and left programming alone for 15 years. Since getting my iPhone I now want to get into developing too and my historical knowledge is getting in the way.

I'm sure it would be simpler to start with no knowledge than try to make sense OOP as it relates to C and Pascal.

So, I'd like some help with the transition too.

[mtwiford]

Well you said that you know C, try this pdf. Its long but also very descriptive.

http://developer.apple.com/documenta...C/OOP_ObjC.pdf

[iAspie 3G]

Cocoa Dev Central: C Language Tutorial for Cocoa

[nevarDeath]

Originally Posted by iAspie 3G

Cocoa Dev Central: C Language Tutorial for Cocoa

Found this, haven't had a chance to look much at it though.

I also found this document which is exactly what I was looking for. Well almost, it's OSX centric, but it explains OOP so anybody could understand it. wish they'd make an iPhone version:

BecomeAnXcoder | CocoaLab

[mtwiford]

read the "become an Xcoder", its very easy to understand vs the cocoa dev central link. I would read the xcoder pdf like it says 2 or 3 times then read the cocoa dev central tutorial. It will make much more sense after you read the become an xcoder.