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    Default FAA to Relax In-Flight Electronics Rules


    For months we've heard chatter about the F.A.A. possibly expanding permissions for in-flight use of today's leading consumer electronics devices, including Apple's iPad.

    As recently as last month, sources close to the Federal Aviation Administration suggested that the agency intends to relax the rules for ereaders and tablet devices during takeoff and landing.

    For fliers, The Wall Street Journal reported Friday, the new rules would probably represent an end to familiar warnings to turn off and stow all electronic devices.
    A high-level advisory panel to the agency has prepared draft recommendations for the F.A.A. to review.

    Cellphone calls are expected to remain off-limits, however. "The draft doesn't make any recommendations regarding phone use because the FAA didn't authorize the panel to delve into that particularly controversial area," the report reads.

    If the FAA does not ease its standards, the advisory group worries, "confidence in the FAA and the [industry's] ability to integrate personal electronic device usage will erode."

    As of this writing, there is no confirmation of when the relaxed rules may take effect.

    Source: WSJ

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    I remember Myth Busters and they wanted to test a cell phone call on a remote airplane and they were denied. I mean, will a call really crash a plane? Has anyone done it??..do tell..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboyz View Post
    I remember Myth Busters and they wanted to test a cell phone call on a remote airplane and they were denied. I mean, will a call really crash a plane? Has anyone done it??..do tell..
    I'm thinking the issue revolves more around the fact that there's a higher percentage of crashes during take off and landing so they want to make sure that they have everyone's attention.

    Just my guess!

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    @bigboyz, Dunno, but cellphones are known to detonate bombs.

    Dunno but cellphones are known to detonate bombs remotely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboyz View Post
    I remember Myth Busters and they wanted to test a cell phone call on a remote airplane and they were denied. I mean, will a call really crash a plane? Has anyone done it??..do tell..
    Would you take a risk of screwing up instruments in the planes? You can wait to call someone after you land.

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    I've never made a call on take off or landing. But I've never switched my phone off and push will always be on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboyz View Post
    I remember Myth Busters and they wanted to test a cell phone call on a remote airplane and they were denied. I mean, will a call really crash a plane? Has anyone done it??..do tell..
    No, common sense tells us that it will not crash a plane, but common sense also tells us that if cell phones are allowed to be used on planes, flights that are currently relatively quite will become very noisy, very quickly. So, it makes sense to ban the use of voice calls on flights.

    There may be technical hurdles (particularly on international flights) as well, such as which cell tower does it connect to, when do you get charged roaming, would traveling at the speeds that planes do cause issues when switching between towers, etc.

    These technical hurdles would probably apply to both voice and data, so until those can be ironed out, it makes sense to ban data on flights as well. Can you imagine getting home and having a $2,000 cell phone bill, because you didn't know you were connected to an international cell tower and were surfing the web?

    So, I really think banning cell phones on flights is more of a practical matter than a safety issue, but if they came out and said that, people would be screaming to allow their use.

    Now, as for other electronic devices, I think they should probably be allowed during take off and landing, so long as they are not bulky enough to become a projectile in an emergency.

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    The rule is so dumb. Terrorists should just bring a bunch of cell phones on the airplane and make calls if it could really crash the plane.

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    One of the guys I work with always leaves his S2 on when we fly...dam freaking annoying! Busy texting! He's like nah it's a myth that planes are affected! He said he read it on Google! ><
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jato_BZ View Post
    One of the guys I work with always leaves his S2 on when we fly...dam freaking annoying! Busy texting! He's like nah it's a myth that planes are affected! He said he read it on Google! ><
    He gets network at 35k'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinaygoel2000 View Post
    He gets network at 35k'?
    Never really asked, we fly at 30K+ in the 737/747s but if we fly in the ATR's it's not at that height. Either way he leaves it on transmit/receive when fly...we thought about getting someone to call his cellphone! He's gone rogue...
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    If it were a true risk. They would most definitely not make it past the metal detectors.

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    I've been on plenty of flights when people were still calling or texting while the plane took off. The first time I was worried, but nothing happened.

    What will Apple do about Airplane mode though???
    Last edited by Donnutt; 06-21-2013 at 10:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOneProfile View Post
    If it were a true risk. They would most definitely not make it past the metal detectors.
    Well, I guess since plastic explosives can make it through a metal detector, it isn't dangerous either, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andygev35 View Post
    Well, I guess since plastic explosives can make it through a metal detector, it isn't dangerous either, right?
    Since when did you hear of someone blowing up a plane with plastic explosives? You just love making things up huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOneProfile View Post
    Since when did you hear of someone blowing up a plane with plastic explosives? You just love making things up huh?
    I was showing you the flaw in your logic, but since you want to be a smartass, Pan-Am flight 103 over Lockerbie Scotland is the most well-known... (But not to you obviously)

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    Great now that this conversation has switched topics. Everyone on here is going to get a visit from the NSA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboyz View Post
    I remember Myth Busters and they wanted to test a cell phone call on a remote airplane and they were denied. I mean, will a call really crash a plane? Has anyone done it??..do tell..
    I'm a pilot, and have made a call on a short distant flight to a friends while in flight (I had another person have control of the plane at the time). Worked fine (low cell signal though), no issues with instruments or the like.

    The cell signal is there anyways, if it interfered, you would have issues even with people aboard without phones.

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    Again, my point was totally missed...

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