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Originally Posted by thazsar Although that was the case for other failbreaks, that doesn't necessarily mean it's the same situation for the iPad Mini or ip5. Not to be rude
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    Quote Originally Posted by thazsar View Post
    Although that was the case for other failbreaks, that doesn't necessarily mean it's the same situation for the iPad Mini or ip5. Not to be rude but you shouldn't correct someone when you don't have proof for your comment.
    Based on Chpwn and planetbeing's work. https://twitter.com/planetbeing/stat...59248795881472 That has to do with the iPhone 5 JB, and the same one MuscleNerd is using. So... I do have proof... Didn't think I needed to post my source. Anyone that follows the Dev's on twitter should know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy View Post
    Doubt they ever release a jailbreak publicly for any of the ipads with it now being illegal.
    It's not illegal. Never has been. Never will be.
    Quote Originally Posted by csglinux View Post
    . But it just isn't that easy to create public, untethered jailbreaks. It amazes me to read, over and over again, statements like: "rest assured, the devs are working on the untethered iPhone 5/iPad mini jailbreak and not to worry, it will be here soon."
    Perhaps in some parallel universe that's true...?
    They've never failed us yet. Every new iOS version has 10's of thousands of new lines of code. Exploits galore. There will always be untethered jailbreaks. It's only a matter of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy View Post
    Doubt they ever release a jailbreak publicly for any of the ipads with it now being illegal.
    What are you talking about? At some point within the last couple of years a court somewhere ruled that jailbreaking was in fact legal. Was there another hearing recently that overturned that decision?

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    Apple is probably/has already read this.
    Directing devs to come out with iOS 6.2..

    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy View Post
    Doubt they ever release a jailbreak publicly for any of the ipads with it now being illegal.
    When have you ever heard of someone being on trial for a jailbreak, even back when it was 'illegal' on iPhones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    It's not illegal. Never has been. Never will be.They've never failed us yet. Every new iOS version has 10's of thousands of new lines of code. Exploits galore. There will always be untethered jailbreaks. It's only a matter of time.
    It is illegal on iPads musclenerd even tweeted about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by csglinux View Post
    Have you seen the awesome list of new features in iOS 6.1? No? That's because there aren't any. 6.1 adds "features" like larger spacing for your music controls and some larger buttons. Apple's new releases are these days all about preventing jailbreaks, not new user features.

    I have a tremendous amount of respect for MuscleNerd. He's a total professional in every way. But it just isn't that easy to create public, untethered jailbreaks. It amazes me to read, over and over again, statements like: "rest assured, the devs are working on the untethered iPhone 5/iPad mini jailbreak and not to worry, it will be here soon."
    Perhaps in some parallel universe that's true...?
    I agree

    Quote Originally Posted by Modding life View Post
    It is illegal on iPads musclenerd even tweeted about it
    Remember when jailbreaking your iPhone was illegal?it never stopped the devs in the past now has it?
    Last edited by Jj2345; 11-04-2012 at 08:30 PM.

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    yeah but the ruling only applies to phones, not tablet devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy View Post
    Doubt they ever release a jailbreak publicly for any of the ipads with it now being illegal.
    It was never legal. Does that mean it never happened for the ipad 1, 2, and 3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    It's not illegal. Never has been. Never will be.They've never failed us yet. Every new iOS version has 10's of thousands of new lines of code. Exploits galore. There will always be untethered jailbreaks. It's only a matter of time.
    Actually I believe it is illegal.... the government said that people can jailbreak their phones but this doesn't apply tablets

    See: US Gov't Rules Jailbreaking Phones Legal, Illegal For Tablets

    "The United States government has ruled that itís perfectly legal for you to jailbreak your phone ó and by jailbreak, we mean that itís not going to violate any copyright laws. But donít think that youíre going to be able to legally hack any of your other devices, because the US Copyright Office says that tablets are excluded from this ruling."

    Quote Originally Posted by JesseDegenerate View Post
    It was never legal. Does that mean it never happened for the ipad 1, 2, and 3?

    i hate kids.
    This is pretty new..

    "the US Copyright Office issued rulings on exemptions to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) today and said that the ďcategory of tablets is difficult to defineĒ so rather than issue a blanket exemption, it declined to lump tablet devices in with phones."

    This is a very recent development... The thing is, they may still release a JB for the iPad because they aren't doing the jailbreaking of your device for you ... the reason they haven't been able to release jailbreaks in the past is because, like with the failbreak.. it requires a developer account and they can't legally distribute files used in those failbreaks to the general public.. has nothing to do with the legality of actually clicking the link ..
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    Here you guys go it is illegal.Apple, iPhone and iPad News | ModMyi - Jailbreaking iPhones is Legal Under DMCA but Jailbreaking iPads is Not

    Now some of you posted what about back in the day when it was illegal 2g/3g/3gs days well back then there actually wasnt anything actually set in place for gaining root access or jailbreaking cellular devices. Also tablets didn't come big till 2010.... Well more like early 2011
    The rules were set by the manufactures and most like apple just said it void warranty.

    The dev team will not be releasing an ipad jailbreak here is why.

    The dmca will hunt them down along with apple and sue the living piss out of them.
    Costing them probably millions of dollars and i am guessing a good amount of jail time.

    So posting anything about jailbreaking ipads big or small is sorta irrelevant at this point in time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colin9001 View Post
    When have you ever heard of someone being on trial for a jailbreak, even back when it was 'illegal' on iPhones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy View Post
    The dmca will hunt them down along with apple and sew the living piss out of them.
    you were doing so good until you demonstrated the inability to distinguish Sew from Sue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy View Post
    Here you guys go it is illegal.Apple, iPhone and iPad News | ModMyi - Jailbreaking iPhones is Legal Under DMCA but Jailbreaking iPads is Not

    Now some of you posted what about back in the day when it was illegal 2g/3g/3gs days well back then there actually wasnt anything actually set in place for gaining root access or jailbreaking cellular devices. Also tablets didn't come big till 2010.... Well more like early 2011
    The rules were set by the manufactures and most like apple just said it void warranty.

    The dev team will not be releasing an ipad jailbreak here is why.

    The dmca will hunt them down along with apple and sew the living piss out of them.
    Costing them probably millions of dollars and i am guessing a good amount of jail time.

    So posting anything about jailbreaking ipads big or small is sorta irrelevant at this point in time.



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    Why is this news? Can we jailbreak the iphone 4s? yes... Can we jailbreak the ipad mini? yes! It runs the same processor so hardware locks aren't impeding anything like the A6 is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NakedFaerie View Post
    So they can jailbreak the brand new iPad mini but they still cant jailbreak the Apple TV 3G?
    It is a really complicated issue that anyone with no/little knowledge of programming would understand

    Even attempting something like this requires an extensive knowledge of programming languages like C, C++, etc so trust me when I say this, it's not easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy View Post
    Here you guys go it is illegal.Apple, iPhone and iPad News | ModMyi - Jailbreaking iPhones is Legal Under DMCA but Jailbreaking iPads is Not

    Now some of you posted what about back in the day when it was illegal 2g/3g/3gs days well back then there actually wasnt anything actually set in place for gaining root access or jailbreaking cellular devices. Also tablets didn't come big till 2010.... Well more like early 2011
    The rules were set by the manufactures and most like apple just said it void warranty.

    The dev team will not be releasing an ipad jailbreak here is why.

    The dmca will hunt them down along with apple and sew (sic--"sue") the living piss out of them.
    Costing them probably millions of dollars and i am guessing a good amount of jail time.
    This is all utter nonsense. The government can't make your personal use of an item you bought illegal in any way unless what you're doing with it hacks classified government stuff or violates copyright law. A jailbreak can do neither. The processor is the same in a phone or iPad so making the distinction between tablet and phone is ludicrous and would never hold up in a court. Impossible to make a distinction that would create legal precedent. MuscleNerd is a talented programmer not a legal scholar. Trust me, gang, Jailbreaking a tablet will never be illegal and even if they hint at such a thing it's a completely unenforceable law. Nothing anyone has posted so far has been an actual US document outlining such an alleged law. So relax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyphur View Post
    you were doing so good until you demonstrated the inability to distinguish Sew from Sue!
    *doing so well

    Anyhow, it seems that the iPad Mini is in the same state as the other A5/A6 devices running iOS6 - failbroken only. It's nice that a failbreak happened so quickly after the Mini was released, but it's been months since the iP5 failbreak and we're still in limbo on a JB of any kind, nevermind untethered.
    Hopefully we hear some encouraging news from one of the devs soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    This is all utter nonsense. The government can't make your personal use of an item you bought illegal in any way unless what you're doing with it hacks classified government stuff or violates copyright law. A jailbreak can do neither. The processor is the same in a phone or iPad so making the distinction between tablet and phone is ludicrous and would never hold up in a court. Impossible to make a distinction that would create legal precedent. MuscleNerd is a talented programmer not a legal scholar. Trust me, gang, Jailbreaking a tablet will never be illegal and even if they hint at such a thing it's a completely unenforceable law. Nothing anyone has posted so far has been an actual US document outlining such an alleged law. So relax.
    I think what he means is it is illegal for iPads only because it never ran through a court like the iPhones did. I don't think anyone will "hunt" people down. But I think it's similar to song piracy. It is illegal but everyone does it, but nobody cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyphur View Post
    you were doing so good until you demonstrated the inability to distinguish Sew from Sue!
    uh.., Kyphur - it's "doing so WELL" not "doing so GOOD"...... Check your own English first, dude.
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    Let me help clear something up for a lot of you:
    1) if a law states something is illegal, then it is illegal
    2) if a law states something is legal, then it is legal
    3) if a law DOES NOT state something is specifically legal it does not necessarily follow (does not necessarily mean) it is therefore illegal. It just means it does not have the protection of the law.

    Many of you are stating that jailbreaking (iPads) is illegal, when all the publications I read just stated that the law was not maintained or left on the books and that "it was no longer listed as legal to jailbreak iPads".

    Please understand, I have not read the official changes in the law (or omission of law(s)). I am just stating that based on what I read in online articles (which is as dangerous as thinking I am giving legal advice) about the law not remaining on the books...then "3)" above it the case.


    Quote Originally Posted by Silverado1987 View Post
    I think what he means is it is illegal for iPads only because it never ran through a court like the iPhones did. I don't think anyone will "hunt" people down. But I think it's similar to song piracy. It is illegal but everyone does it, but nobody cares.
    Something not listed as legal does not necessarily make said thing illegal.

    For example, there is no US law that I am familiar with stating "it is legal to pick my nose while cutting my grass", but that does not make it illegal to actually pick my nose while cutting my grass.

    Now, with respect to "song piracy", there are actual laws stating it is illegal to pirate "blah blah blah". In this regard, I believe there is a distinct difference between copying songs and jailbreaking. The former (songs) has specific laws stating it is illegal to copy, the other (jailbreak), I believe, just has no law protecting the act of jailbreaking iPads.
    Last edited by GeoffS4; 11-05-2012 at 10:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffS4 View Post
    Let me help clear something up for a lot of you:
    1) if a law states something is illegal, then it is illegal
    2) if a law states something is legal, then it is legal
    3) if a law DOES NOT state something is specifically legal it does not necessarily follow (does not necessarily mean) it is therefore illegal. It just means it does not have the protection of the law.

    Many of you are stating that jailbreaking (iPads) is illegal, when all the publications I read just stated that the law was not maintained or left on the books and that "it was no longer listed as legal to jailbreak iPads".

    Please understand, I have not read the official changes in the law (or omission of law(s)). I am just stating that based on what I read in online articles (which is as dangerous as thinking I am giving legal advice) about the law not remaining on the books...then "3)" above it the case.

    Something not listed as legal does not necessarily make said thing illegal.
    This is completely correct - and why this whole discussion and worry is nonsense. I just thought what you outlined there went without saying. But I guess not. So thanks for stating the obvious. Some need it. (truly - appreciate it)...

    For example, there is no US law that I am familiar with stating "it is illegal to pick my nose while cutting my grass", but that does not make it illegal to actually pick my nose while cutting my grass.
    Ooops. Your double negative there defeats your point. What I think you meant to say is - "to the best of your knowledge there is currently no law making LEGAL - picking of your nose,etc.." Which doesn't then necessarily make it illegal. You just mis-typed there I think.

    Now, with respect to "song piracy", there are actual laws stating it is illegal to pirate "blah blah blah". In this regard, I believe there is a distinct difference between copying songs and jailbreaking. The former (songs) has specific laws stating it is illegal to copy, the other (jailbreak), I believe, just has no law protecting the act of jailbreaking iPads.
    Exactly. And that's why the hype of this story is just pure nonsense.
    Last edited by NewdestinyX; 11-05-2012 at 08:27 AM.
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