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03-21-2012, 04:14 PM #21
I'm hoping that the next iPhone will have LTE and that AT&T won't make me change plans to upgrade. I recently bought a Samsung Skyrocket on 4G LTE in the Bay Area - they let me keep unlimited data even though I was switching to their 4G LTE network (which is insanely fast here in the Bay Area right now). I'll never get an iPad with a LTE chip because I carry one around in my pocket all day as it is. Looking forward to tethering my next gen iPhone on LTE with my iPad so AT&T doesn't get double $$.
As for everyone pointing out how Americans are "whiny" or telling us to "go to a 3rd world country", please stop. America is a 1st world country and is full of people who donate a **** ton of money to poor countries around the world; in excess of what our Government already forks over to countries around the world. Just because there isn't progress everywhere in the world doesn't mean we can't enjoy the freedom to set expectations for companies we hand over our hard earned money to. Get off your high horse already. That there are people in the world who have trouble getting water isn't an excuse to let some American corporations manipulate consumers for their own profit. The two are completely unrelated.
Plus, if it takes 10 seconds to load a page on 3G and 2 seconds on LTE, that's an 80% cut in time. That time to download content is re-spent consuming content. So, your argument is somewhat accurate but doesn't take in to account all variables.
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03-21-2012, 04:42 PM #22
03-21-2012, 04:58 PM #23
How's the kool-aid? Refreshing?
03-21-2012, 05:08 PM #24
I think what they really mean is that NEW customers are not realizing how much data they are going through when they decide to watch every March Madness game over LTE. That said, I think we will see the data cap raised, even if only by a gig or two once LTE is on every phone they sell. I use my iPad1 very often, more than my computer, and I have the unlimited plan. There are some months where I go over 2GB in data, but most months I am under that threshold. Also, I have Wifi off most of the time, so I can leave my home network un-congested. Those that are going up to like 10GB a month, what are you doing online? Are you netflixing all day long? At my last job, there were some nights that I watched netflix over 3G like all night, but still would stay well under 2GB. I would be curious, so I would check my usage periodically, not that it mattered since I had unlimited. Once I get my hands on an LTE iPad, I wonder how low my speed would be if/when it is throttled? If they dropped me down to 3G speeds, I would still be a happy camper. Sure I wouldn't be spanking my home connection, but I would still be able to do what I do comfortably.
At the end of the day, none of this matters. AT&T sets how much access (essentially) that we have to the web. We go over the limit, we either pay more or GTFO.And it will be like a taco inside a taco within a Taco Bell that's inside a KFC that's within a mall that's inside your dream!
03-21-2012, 05:33 PM #25
03-21-2012, 05:41 PM #26
That's because you're looking into my comment too deeply....people were suing/blaming McDonalds because they were getting fat from eating their food when actually the person just needed to learn self-control and not eat fast food from them all the time. People will want to sue/blame AT&T because they charge so much for data that when they use up all their data on LTE they will have to pay more for more data. When really the user just needs self-control and not keep watching more stuff on LTE. The point is self-control, it's not that hard to understand unless you're looking into it too deeply, which you were. It was just a quick fun way of connecting the two, so take a chill pill!
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03-21-2012, 05:49 PM #27
Down with Data Limits! Down with Data Limits!
03-21-2012, 06:00 PM #28
They can have my jailbreak when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.
03-21-2012, 07:15 PM #29
Lol that guy is an idiot. He needs to know streaming video uses the most data. You can't expect to stream a lot of video and have 2 gb be enough. He's just dumb.
03-21-2012, 07:54 PM #30
Apple should allow users to "cap" download speeds with software. I've burned through 2 gigs of data in 2 days streaming Netflix for about an hour each day. The quality is amazing, but data usage is off the charts.
03-21-2012, 08:40 PM #31
In my opinion, Cell phone services like AT&T and Verizon are wayyy overpricing the data amount!! I mean c'mon! its 2012, technology has changed and so has the amount of data used because of the capability the new technology has. This is craaaaaazzzzyyyy for us sooo much money each month for the same amount of data for the past decade. Every few years the plans should change as does the technology. This is BS and people should realize we are being scammed. I agree our plans shouldnt be unlimited at LEAST raise the cap to like 5 or 10 gigs per plan, just sayin'
03-21-2012, 09:09 PM #32
People just have to have some restraint and take responsibility for their use. "It's faster so you're gonna want to watch/stream more..." - sorry, that's on you then. Just like with anything else. You get a car that can go 200mph, you're going to keep your driving within limits - occasionally showing off the engine in select, appropriate (or emergency) circumstances, or you're going to concede paying fines and having your license suspended. In the case of an LTE tablet, you'll monitor your use responsibly, or you'll pay outrageous fees and end up with your data being throttled. The carriers aren't obligated to do anything - sure, it would be nice if they did, but yeah... good luck with that. Just because you have access to something doesn't mean you have to (in typical American fashion) abuse it. In this instance, you're paying for it - out the a**, if you're not careful.Reminding you all that YOU'RE ≠ YOUR
03-21-2012, 09:47 PM #33
Unlimited AT&T iPad data plan for me. Thankyouverymuch!
03-21-2012, 11:26 PM #34
See all this AT&T talk makes me glad I am a Verizon customer and have unlimited everything for $45 a month. had it long ago. the thing that Verizon has my respect for is they didn't come back and give me some bull crap about well, unlimited... as a word has been taken in the wrong light... so it is OK for us to "throttle" your ever needed gadgets. no they just took it off the table and still honored the commitment they made.
03-21-2012, 11:34 PM #35WI_Fi
some times on my mac. I want to watch the apple wwdc, on 1080p and freezes all video long the only video i can watch is 720 with some drops on the speed. If i have the iPad and the mac watching the same video or my kid is using the iPod. we end up canceling the video because pauses a lot.
My iPhone 4gs its faster then my home internet. I have unlimited data plan but don't want to. pass the cap(3Gigs).By the way, not all content on the web, like youtube has Hd videos , but youtube detects you speed and sends video on HD regardless the video quality.
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03-22-2012, 12:09 AM #36
My problem is with the cell phone companies with the way they advertise their fast 4G/LTE networks. They show you how you can stream movies, TV, music, etc, anywhere and anywhere fast. But if you try do actually do what they say you can do you'd be paying a lot of money per month in overage charges. They should stop advertising how they have this super fast network until they can actually handle the bandwidth at an affordable price. Personally I wanted to stream baseball games using the MLB app, and I wanted to do this everyday at work. My employer has the Internet on our work computers locked down. So I tried to do this with my iPad 2 and a Verizon 4G MiFi. Well, it turns out that streaming one baseball game can easily burn through 2-3GB of data. Cell companies are not ready for prime time when it comes to providing high speed connections to the masses, and until they are they need to stop advertising like its something we can all do.
I want true unlimited unthrottled fast Internet! How much would you be willing to pay for that?
03-22-2012, 12:46 AM #37
At least LTE works for the new iPad in the US/Canada. Great to be in Australia and most of the other international 4G countries who utilise the other LTE frequencies like 1800mhz! Thanks Apple for only considering the home market with the lack a of tri-band 4G LTE chipset. Let me guess, the next iPad will miraculously contain said tri-band chipset! Glad to know my 6gig plan will be more than enough if I do buy one as a result lol. But hey might just stay with the iPad 1!
03-22-2012, 07:23 AM #38
I might not live long enough to see it but something will give. U can't just keep ripping people off for a profit.
03-22-2012, 08:08 AM #39
I completely understand that and I know it's hard with AT&T breathing down our necks about using a ton of data (even though it's "unlimited"), so our options are limited. Using wi-fi when possible (even if it slows down the network) is still the best option in my mind. Especially if you don't want AT&T slowing down your speeds cause you used too much data.
03-22-2012, 08:45 AM #40
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