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12-06-2011, 10:23 PM #1
Celebrity Alec Baldwin Kicked Off of Plane: Using iPad to Play Words With Friends
Alec Baldwin was kicked off of a plane for using his iPhone.
EDIT: I realize this is about an iPhone and is in the iPad section. A news site mis-reported this story as Alec Baldwin was using an iPad when he was really using an iPhone. The story has been fixed accordingly.
Sometimes when you're stuck at a flight gate, Words With Friends can be a fun way to keep the time from ticking so slowly. But again, airplanes have rules and if you don't follow them, you will be expunged from the flight.
What could be more boring than being idled at a gate with nothing to do? I'm not sure; but, to Alec Baldwin, it calls for passing the time by playing Words With Friends on his iPhone. Celebrity Alec Baldwin, 53, was asked to put his iPhone away whilst in the middle of being on an idled airplane. Baldwin loved Words With Friends so much, that he was willing to get off of the plane to play.
Baldwin’s spokesman, Matthew Hiltzik had this to say:
Originally Posted by Matthew Hiltzik
What do you think about electronics being banned in an airplane until up high in the air? Share in the comments below!
Last edited by Anthony Bouchard; 12-06-2011 at 10:41 PM.
12-06-2011, 10:39 PM #2
its ridiculous... what harm does it do to have your phone out while waiting for the damn plane to get ready to take off?? even if theres a harm then the airlines really need to make their plane instruments protected against that cuz people will always be on their phones even if they have to sneak it
12-06-2011, 10:43 PM #3
is there air plane mode on the iPad ????
12-06-2011, 11:02 PM #4
I would too, do the same in this situation. But then again I wouldn't do it because I wouldn't have the money to go onto another flight like Alec here x)
12-06-2011, 11:06 PM #5
So to err on the side of safety, no electronics during take off. The last thing we want is the pilot to get distracted from some idiots lame ring tone. Once you're safe in the skies and everything is on auto pilot (and computerized for that part) then it's safe to use all your electrical interference generating equipment. Kind of a oxymoron if you ask me.
12-06-2011, 11:25 PM #6
*Samuel l Jackson voice* I have had it! With these mutha f*cking phones on this mutha f*cking plane!!!
12-06-2011, 11:29 PM #7
Listen, people above. The phone itself doesn't make it "hard" to fly. The one and only problem is that the phone might disturb the ATC contact!!!
12-07-2011, 01:01 AM #8
Actually, aircraft from the 60s or not, there's little to suggest that you can't use electronics onboard. Particularly idle at the gate!
See: Fliers Still Must Turn Off Devices, but It's Not Clear Why - NYTimes.com
12-07-2011, 07:18 AM #9
I used to work on ATC equipment, including radios. I also used to play around on my phone while supervising other guys who were doing so. Not so much as an odd blip appeared on the spectrum-analyzer. Why? Cell phone bands operate from 850MHz - 1900MHz; ATC radios from 115.0MHz - 399.975MHz (minus 180 - 225MHz). On a side note, the radios were built in the 50s and 60s as well.
The only effect phones have with planes is nav and landing instrumentation. As long as they weren't trying to calibrate it at the gate (which should be reserved for maintenance), there should be no reason to not be able to play on your phone while idling at the gate.Do I brag about which phone I have in this space?
12-07-2011, 07:26 AM #10
My brother-in-law is a pilot for Southwest and he said that the phone wouldn't disturb anything (especially if they were idle). He keeps his phone on during landing and take off and he's sitting in the cockpit...seems like this airline just wanted to get some attention.
12-07-2011, 07:35 AM #11
12-07-2011, 08:19 AM #12
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12-07-2011, 08:59 AM #13
The reason is "because it only takes ONE." You will see lots of posts from folks who say "I tested radio equipment and my iPhone never interfered with it" or "My cousin is a pilot and says it's not a problem." That all may be true. But the issue is you never really can anticipate all the electronic combinations that can be created and it only takes one bad combination to potentially create a really bad day for everyone. As a pilot myself, I'll give you a real-life example: I regularly use my iPhone as a backup aviation navigation device when I rent planes. On one particular flight, the radios on the plane worked great on the outbound flight, but were practically useless on the return. They were full of static, the VOR radios (a type of navigation device) were erratic, and even the GPS-driven autopilot couldn't be relied upon. I noted the problem with the plane rental folks, and they found nothing wrong. The next flight, same plane, same problem: worked fine on the way out, was nearly unusable on the way back. Again, they couldn't find the problem. So we focused on what was different on the return. The difference? I was using an extended battery for the iPhone on the return flight each time, and every time the iPhone touched any metal surface (not a surface on the plane, ANY metal surface including my kneeboard), the combination of the extended battery and the iPhone wiped out the radios, including GPS. Specific and rare situation? Absolutely. Impossible to imagine happening on a major airline. Absolutely not. I wouldn't want to see this combination on any airliner when they are between 0 and 10,000 feet in hard IFR (instrument flight rules....eg. they can't see and have to rely on their instruments). Their rule makes sense. Everything off when the door is shut (an easy milestone to use) until you are above 10,000 feet.
12-07-2011, 09:39 AM #14
12-07-2011, 10:49 AM #15
i bet ill whoop him in words with friends. anybody want to play? un: bleucrayonz
12-07-2011, 12:07 PM #16
With that said, it's only that way on the side of caution, you just never know, although I don't see any problem with this. It's kinda silly.
12-07-2011, 03:50 PM #17
Acworth, GA, All citizens must own a rake. (doesn't say they have to use it)
Idaho, Riding a merry-go-round on Sundays is considered a crime. (Don't ask me why?)
Illegal for a man to give his sweetheart a box of candy weighing less than fifty pounds. (pay attention to the next law)
a citizen is forbidden by law to give another citizen a box of candy that weighs more than 50 pounds. (guess that sweetheart is sol)
Illinois, Law forbids eating in a place that is on fire. (honey wake up the house is on fire, oh chocolate cake I'll leave after i eat this)
Kenilworth: A rooster must step back three hundred feet from any residence if he wishes to crow; Hens that wish to cackle must step two hundred feet back from any residence. (LOL)
Kirkland: Bees are not allowed to fly over the village or through any of Kirkland's streets. (Who enforces these laws?)
This is a small sample. I don't think the electronics in planes is as ridiculous as these laws, but I do think it's harmless to use them on a plane.If I can't mod it...I don't want it.
12-07-2011, 04:19 PM #18
The only reason for this that I can think of is that it could be for distractions of passengers in the event of an emergency.
Who knows these days."Carpe iPhone"-"Seize the iPhone"-Steve's Roman Ancestors
12-07-2011, 04:36 PM #19
I can say with 100% certainty the issue was with the planes wiring, and I hope to god a maintenance tech found the issue before letting anyone else use that plane. The issue is that the planes electrical system is either not properly grounded / has exposed wires. That is why touching your phone to the metal was killing all of the electronics. I would have thought maybe there would be a slight chance of the radio being bad, but the fact that you say it knocked out the GPS too tells you right away this is an electrical issue with the plane and i'm pretty sure I could have replicated the issue with any device regardless of if it had a radio or not.
What is the name of the rental company you use so that I can be sure to recommend nobody go near them if they really don't realize that an electronic touching metal causing electrical failure is an issue with the plane. I'd love to have seen that plane put through standard lightning testing, 10-1 there are gaps in the conductive path and the current would breach the exterior.
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