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05-02-2010, 02:50 AM #21
You wanna know how I know? Inside info. All ISPs are guilty of "traffic shaping." The one I am intimately familiar with tells us to tell all customers that we do not when we absolutely do... the WORST kind (all unrecognized traffic has low priority; all speedtests and mainstream domains get higher priority; Bittorrent protocol is tampered with to slow it down to a crawl; VoIP services are affected and customers are told to sign up for our own secretly-prioritized telephone service; etc). What may be mainstream like, say, HD streaming and remote game services (streaming low-latency HD video to the user and input from the user) in the future may never get a chance due to this behavior. It kills new uses for bandwidth before the tech has a chance to exist or innovate just because it isn't already as popular as YouTube.
Net neutrality. It's important.
Note: My understanding of cell network tech is extrapolated but I believe it to be somewhat accurate.
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05-02-2010, 04:09 AM #22
I agree...3G speeds are antiquated and overloaded at this point until the 4G networks are more established. Even then, a bog down will arise as everyone chases the transitions between technologies. I'm so glad I saved my money by not getting the iPad 3G and sticking with the Wi-Fi only version. Using 3G is painful unless you just want to check your email or do some casual web browsing. Streaming video content! Forget it... It's like a scratched DVD that skips and eventually you get tired of it and don't watch it. Best bet is to get a Wi-Fi portable modem (Sprint or Verizon) that let's you access at a higher 4G bandwidth for now and just tether your iPad to it. Just an opinion... Cheers and enjoy your Eye Pads
05-02-2010, 05:03 AM #23
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05-02-2010, 05:27 AM #24
Leave me with my wifi model and mywi thank you.HONDA PARTS SPECIALIST!!!
05-02-2010, 06:26 AM #25
isnt that saying "our 3G network is too crappy to support the iDevice consumers that we wanted in the first place"? god im glad att isnt in the UK. but then again O2 isnt that great either.
05-02-2010, 08:17 AM #26
I understand the bandwidth issues, but youtube over 3g is almost unwatchable. It is so pixelated it looks like crap, all because ATT cant handle the bandwidth. But when I watch youtube or stream netflix over my Sprint 3g mi fi card it looked great, and had no issues. Took a little longer to load, but didnt hitch or loose connection at all while watching a movie. This is why apple needs to get away from ATT because ATT is holding back the potential of their products. I have a Ipad 3g, but I will still just keep using my sprint card as I get quadruple the coverage area, and can use all functions of the ipad, without it downsizing quality for 3g use.
05-02-2010, 09:15 AM #27
Jailbreak + pdanet or mywi and the program limitations disappear. Doesn't help the bandwidth issue, but it's progress. I tried a palm pre with verizon mobile hotspot. It sucked. Very very slow and I dropped connection to the phone all the time.
05-02-2010, 09:52 AM #28
Here the wifi is not far off from my 3g speeds. I get 2.5 to 3.5mbps dl. The upload is horrible but dl speeds are great! When I tether and do simple browsing, it's actually hard to notice the difference between the 2
05-02-2010, 11:45 AM #29
For those of you that don't get it, there are two reasons why apple does this:
1) If 3G was not capped on it's speed it would run down the battery. Apple does this so they will have control of how the iPhone performs and how long it performs for.
2) as said before there is a network regulation on how much data can come from 1 certain tower which is why you may have 10 3G towers in a 5 mile radius or you may have 4 or 5.
If your in a heavy populated area everyone (for the most part) is demanding a piece of the pie constantly.
1. Jailbreak and use 3G unrestricted or an app that does the same feature.
2. Wifi models, hopefully you have an iPhone and it's jailbroken, then you can run mywifi or a similar app to use your phone as a router.
05-02-2010, 12:10 PM #30
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05-02-2010, 03:55 PM #31
Does this mean that I wont be able to use my MLB.tv subscription on the Ipad using the 3g connection? If so, I may not purchase an Ipad. I really wanted to buy one because my wifi at work blocks mlb.tv and it's streaming video. I figured if I bought the 3g model that I would then be able to access the live streaming games using the 3g model. If I buy this and an error message comes up that says I must use a wifi connection, I'll be severly disappointed. 800 bucks disappointed.
05-03-2010, 11:11 AM #32
Nexus one and other android devices runs clear youtube videos on AT&T. So blame it on apple. If your phone is jailbroken look into getting 3g unrestrictor. One of the first apps I got after jailbreak. iPhone videos on 3g is horrible.