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    Quote Originally Posted by z3r01 View Post
    how can adobe win? they cant obligate apple to do anything
    idk but it would be hilarious

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    This is going to go NO WHERE! Its Apple's software and hardware they can decide what ever they want and whats compatible and whats not. Sorry Adobe you already lost that one,and Flash Is Dead...... hahahahahhahaha.

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    I'll sit up once there in court and Adobe has a chance of actually changing something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajjj08 View Post
    For all the people that are asking suing them for what, or the judge will just throw it out should really take a look at the laws against monoply.

    In economics, a monopoly exists when a specific individual or an enterprise has sufficient control over a particular product or service to determine significantly the terms on which other individuals shall have access to it. Monopolies are thus characterized by a lack of economic competition for the good or service that they provide and a lack of viable substitute goods. The verb "monopolize" refers to the process by which a firm gains persistently greater market share than what is expected under perfect competition.

    Apple in my opinion is in possible violation of monopoly laws with their continuos ban on flash. I'm not saying that flash on the iphone or ipad is a good idea, I am only stating that Adobe MIGHT have a case.
    yeah, if there wasn't a billion other smart phones in the market. Correct me if I'm wrong (because I'm not a lawyer), but that's like saying Sony has %100 of the PS3 market and they won't let some random company make some accessory for it. If Sony says no, they could always go to another brand like the 360 or Wii.

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    I want flash so bad! Just give it to us apple!
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    Quote Originally Posted by brianlg View Post
    Sorry, but I had to stop reading after that.. I'm sick of this rumor bs. Rumors aren't news.
    Exactly right. Adobe knew what they were getting into when they tried to force Apple's hand, I highly doubt a lawsuit will come of this.

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    Err... What can they sue them for?

    Lol never mind.
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    I think any lawsuit would be bess about Apple's choice of not using their software on the iPhone/iPad .. as in .. browser support of flash .. I think it's more about eliminating the option of developers to use CS5 to develop native apps for the iPhone/iPad..

    Apple is effectively cutting off the hands of many of the developers that have apps in the app store..

    They are limiting the options for developers to write apps for their platform and locking them into Apple's expensive development platform.. If you're a windows or Linux guy looking for some way to write an app for the app store, you're SOL now..

    I know this will eliminate a lot of the crap in the app store, but it also will likely push a flood of developers to other platforms and aid their competition.. What happens when the competition's app stores get bigger and have more options? it becomes more attractive for customers to use the competition... one of the main reasons I stay with iPhone is the massive app store.

    I think Apple is doing something stupid... and I do think it was primarily aimed at preventing CS5 apps from coming in.. the timing is too perfect.

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    adobe will wait apple's time, they've got no chance at winning anything. Flash is being elimnated on Apple's devices not the world (although eventually it'll come to that).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajjj08 View Post
    For all the people that are asking suing them for what, or the judge will just throw it out should really take a look at the laws against monopoly.

    In economics, a monopoly exists when a specific individual or an enterprise has sufficient control over a particular product or service to determine significantly the terms on which other individuals shall have access to it. Monopolies are thus characterized by a lack of economic competition for the good or service that they provide and a lack of viable substitute goods. The verb "monopolize" refers to the process by which a firm gains persistently greater market share than what is expected under perfect competition.

    Apple in my opinion is in possible violation of monopoly laws with their continuos ban on flash. I'm not saying that flash on the iphone or ipad is a good idea, I am only stating that Adobe MIGHT have a case.
    Wouldn't HTC get a bigger market share because they HAVE flash. This would not be considered a monopoly.

    If they said we get flash and no other phones can have it, then it would be.

    Quote Originally Posted by vanik08 View Post
    adobe will wait apple's time, they've got no chance at winning anything. Flash is being elimnated on Apple's devices not the world (although eventually it'll come to that).
    A lot of major websites dumped flash for html5 when the ipad came out.

    Even YouTube has HTML5 beta's going, they will one day kill off flash all together.
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    this is just like nokia vs apple. completely pointless on adobe's part. they are just to sad that flash is going out of style.

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    Wow... these are some of the densest replies I have seen to date. The lawsuit would have nothing to do with Apple not wanting to USE Flash. They are keeping everyone else from using it. It shouldn't be THEIR decision. Apple locking flash out = antitrust law issues. Simple as that.
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    For all the Apple 'new-bees' ......... a little Adobe/Apple history.

    Twenty plus years ago (during the PC/MS/NT revolution) Apple was almost dead. Apple tried, but had very little success getting into the corporate environment. The stock price dropped to 1 or 2 dollars. Had less than 1% market share. If anyone had a Mac, it had to be well justified. And yes, this was long before the iPod came around. The very few people who enjoyed a Mac were the graphics artists: aka Adobe Photoshop. Photoshop was (and still is) the standard, the best solution for graphics artists. It was Adobe that kept dear Apple from bankruptcy and survive the PC revolution. No question about it.

    This Adobe/Apple battle is just one more example of Apple loosing their way, forgetting where and how they grew up. Now that Apple is 'king of the road', everybody must bow down and kiss their royal axx.

    Adobe will win this battle --- and if we're lucky, Apple with become a bit more humble. Gosh I home so.

    Thank goodness someone is finally standing up to Apple and saying 'enough is enough'!!!!
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    Woohoo... These two billion dollar corporations fighting pouring thousands, hopefully millions back into the economy!!! Spend rich people, spend!

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    @Mes whaaatever!!! It doesn't matter, all of that crap is ALL water under the bridge!!! Apple ldoesnt want to have ANYTHING to do with Adobe anymore, and if developers DO use it, then Apple WILL have something to do with Adobe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mes View Post
    For all the Apple 'new-bees' ......... a little Adobe/Apple history.

    Twenty plus years ago (during the PC/MS/NT revolution) Apple was almost dead. Apple tried, but had very little success getting into the corporate environment. The stock price dropped to 1 or 2 dollars. Had less than 1% market share. If anyone had a Mac, it had to be well justified. And yes, this was long before the iPod came around. The very few people who enjoyed a Mac were the graphics artists: aka Adobe Photoshop. Photoshop was (and still is) the standard, the best solution for graphics artists. It was Adobe that kept dear Apple from bankruptcy and survive the PC revolution. No question about it.

    This Adobe/Apple battle is just one more example of Apple loosing their way, forgetting where and how they grew up. Now that Apple is 'king of the road', everybody must bow down and kiss their royal axx.

    Adobe will win this battle --- and if we're lucky, Apple with become a bit more humble. Gosh I home so.

    Thank goodness someone is finally standing up to Apple and saying 'enough is enough'!!!!
    Hmm...so not only did Microsoft bail out Apple when they were failing hard, so did Adobe, and now look at Apple. They've become exactly what Microsoft used to be. Funny how that works.

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    To all the mmi members lacking legal-knowledge saying Adobe doesn't have a case -- you're right, but only partially. If they want to discontinue the use of flash in their SDK they have to give a sufficient amount of time for DEVELOPERS to change their code and port over. Adobe's fighting on behalf of the public. It'll simply be to have flash re-implemented into the SDK. There'll be no money involved, and if they want money they'll lose right away.

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