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Originally Posted by lolcats1 lol i thought this forum was about the ipad. guess not. It is an Apple Forum...
02-09-2010, 05:47 PM #41
02-09-2010, 05:49 PM #42
02-09-2010, 05:55 PM #43
WAIT...if I'm reading this right...does this mean Apple will be, in theory, able to "unjailbreak" your iphone/ipod/ipad? Or did I just misread this here?
02-09-2010, 06:07 PM #44
...loosely reminds me of how they overturned marihuana tax act of 1937.
02-09-2010, 06:34 PM #45
02-09-2010, 06:48 PM #46
I miss the days in Texas where everyone had a beer in one hand and a gun in the other!
02-09-2010, 07:01 PM #47
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02-09-2010, 07:43 PM #48
Apple has a kill-switch function that gives them the ability to kill any app on your phone. This function has never been used and is there only as a last resort. You can use SBSettings to disable this killswitch (under Extras & Option) but again, there's a very low chance they're going to ever come close to using it. That's all they can do, they can't "un-jailbreak" your phone.
02-09-2010, 07:52 PM #49
Buy the DRM-infected music and expect to not be able to play it on another manufacturer's MP3 player...or download a DRM-free MP3 via discouraged channels. people opt for the later and not only because it was free. It also often times means having to remember passwords and other limiting features.
I have actually bought albums online, then turned around and download the album via FLAC through...alternate means...because I wasn't satisfied with the quality of my MP3's. I thought they could have been encoded better. Am I wrong for that? I don't think so. I just wanted better quality. Can't beat FLAC, you know?
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02-09-2010, 07:57 PM #50
[quote=yahoowizard;5118551]...petitioning isn't going to do anything.../QUOTE]
Really? Well why bother ever trying to change anything. Let's just keep eating what they shovel us.
Personally, I am in complete agreement with the creators of the petition and I signed it the moment I heard about it. Many of these things they discuss seem insignificant now but they need to be addressed and fixed before Apple and others set a restrictive and controlling precedent for the industry to follow and expand upon in the future.
02-09-2010, 07:58 PM #51
and you're good with that?
just curious. fortunately for us, Apple is tricky, but motivated "freedom fighters" are trickier. If they weren't, we wouldn't have modmyi.com to enjoy. And while the iPhone has been a decent device, let's not fool ourselves into believing many of us would have jumped ship long ago had it not been for the efforts to jailbreak this phone, which have lead to invaluable features like tethering and backgrounding, customized styling, bluetooth keyboards, VLC Player (for any format of video or audio), and more. Copy & Paste before there was copy & paste. Video recording all the way down the product line before video recording was supported.
it's the community refusing limitation that has made the iPhone worthy. Not apple. I feel for the sad souls who have yet to jailbreak their phones. Considering you post here, I assume you feel the same way.
Otherwise, feel free to log out, update your phone to 3.1.3 and never jailbreak again. So that you can enjoy your "China" experience.
02-09-2010, 08:05 PM #52
Someone would complain about this...Asking for help is different from being stupid. Fanboys can rot in @#$%!
02-09-2010, 08:27 PM #53
Handbrake isn't hosted here in the US and neither it or VLC can break CSS. One is a great player and the other an encoder, but neither break the DRM on a DVD. How in the hell are you supposed to make that copy without breaking that DRM, legally? You cannot legally make a backup of any DVD made currently because you have to violate the law about decrypting the copy protection on said DVD to do so. Learn something before you speak. If you know a way to do so that's 100% legal I'd like to know, cause you seem to think you know better than any of us. Either prove yourself or quit clogging up actual useful conversation.
DRM has proven time an again to be an abuse of paying customers and a godsend to thieves. You can try and explain away it's very real problems and the truth all you want, it's simply a broken system that needs to either go away or make it much easier to deal with. Mom and Pop don't know why one video will work here but not there, they just want it to. I've had this problem with my parents alot, and trying to explain it gets a very weird stare and a 'HUH?' every time. So it's a huge headache. I'm not saying steal software, music, movies and so on. I very much want content creators to get compensated for their work, not the other way around. Completely against the idea of theft, but we have quite a few among us that try and rationalize why they steal. I don't want people to steal this stuff, but as it stands DRM is broken and doesn't help the customer. I don't know what's the best way either, I just know what's wrong. Steam is probably the closest I can think of a good way to do it but it has hiccups now and then.
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02-09-2010, 08:44 PM #54
How can I help support these people?
02-09-2010, 09:04 PM #55
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02-09-2010, 09:53 PM #56
02-09-2010, 11:47 PM #57
DRM + large iTouch + no multitask + cripple OS for this hardware = I am not getting one.
02-10-2010, 01:00 AM #58
I am siding with Apple only on the basis they should be allowed to protect their investment. You can simply not buy their product if you don't think it's worth it to you. So can ALL these other people crying about it.
02-10-2010, 02:22 AM #59
he's not saying "make everything free". he's saying, "after I bought it, allow me to use it how I see fit. Get out of the way."
he's correct. there should be no need for Cydia. But because Apple left out critical features and locked out the consumer's ability to do things like CHANGE A SIMPLE SPRINGBOARD BACKGROUND or add features to Safari...or actually make our lock screens useful...or multitask...or play wma's...we have to hack and jailbreak.
in the open source world, you're free to tinker with and change anything under the hood you wish. with Windows and OSX this is also mostly true, though it's a bit more obtuse. But the iPhone and iPod are locked up to an extreme to "preserve our user experience". at the cost of freedom. our efforts to add functionality to our devices should not have an effect on Apple "protecting their investment". After I bought it, it's not their investment to worry about. They did they job.
that's the point.
02-10-2010, 02:31 AM #60
Then don't buy it. Seriously. I have lost possible thousands due to piracy over the last 8 years. DRM would not have existed because of piracy. Someone buys it then does that person have the right to give it away for free? Think about the "see fit". This is the main source of piracy. You make a copy and give it to your friends. I am still backing Apple.
They didn't leave out critical features. If they planned to have their device without a feature then it wasn't left out. It wasn't there to begin with. It's their device and can do with what they want to with it. If you don't like it that way just don't buy it, or jailbreak it. You have a choice, and you chose to buy it that way. Man up and live with it. You then chose to jailbreak the device because you didn't like it the way they manufactured it. Again your choice. You are doing what you please with the device. You can choose to update it or not.
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