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Old 01-28-2010, 07:39 AM
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Inside Apple's New A4

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Arguably the most notable iPad technology is the chip that powers it, the new A4. The iPad's 1GHz system-on-a-chip, clocked at 1 GHz (compared to about 600MHz for the iPhone 3GS) was designed by Apple itself, through its acquisition of chipmaker PA Semiconductor. The processor's speed, along with the advanced power-management that allows Apple to brag that the iPad will be able to play 10 hours of continuous HD video without recharging, could be a significant selling point for the new device as it establishes its space in the marketplace.

The A4, as a system-on-a-chip (SoC), combines the CPU, graphics processor, memory management and other components such as the I/O controller on a single piece of silicon. Though Apple has not released detailed specs on the chip, observers have gathered details out of reports from suppliers, leaks and a healthy dose of conjecture.

Most observers are certain that the A4's CPU is ARM's Cortex-A9 MPCore, which is also used on the Qualcomm Snapdragon, a popular chipset used in smartphones and netbooks. The graphics processor is believed to be the ARM Mali 50 Series, and the entire ASIC was built by Samsung - whose process management is credited with the low power draw - based on designs by Apple, using its PA Semi brain trust. The result is an SoC that is substantially similar to the NVIDIA Tegra, with (at least claimed) better performance, especially relative to its power draw.

So when Apple CEO Steve Jobs described the A4 as "custom silicon that we designed for this product," he was certainly speaking the truth, though it may have left the impression that the entire chip was homegrown. Though it uses technology from other manufacturers, Apple's design of this SoC potentially gives it the edge over smartphone competitors, and its proprietary nature means Apple can keep it all for themselves. As Richard Doherty, director of technology consulting firm Envisioneering Group, told CNET this week, Apple has an edge over companies like Qualcomm, Freescale, and others that license ARM chips:
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There's nothing that I can see from ARM licensees or Intel that could challenge the power-per-watt, the power-per-buck, the power-per-cubic-millimeter of size. Apple is going to have quite a performance, battery efficiency, and cost advantage over the competition.
Speculation has already begun that the A4 will be at the heart of a fourth-generation iPhone, which is expected to be released this summer.

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Old 01-28-2010, 07:45 AM
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1GHz will be nice for an iPhone 4G...but it will only be enough to match the Nexus One. It's always better to stay on top of the competition than to simply match it. I'm hoping Apple gets up to speed after the disappointment we all went through yesterday.
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Old 01-28-2010, 08:14 AM
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I agree that this chip in the iPhone 4G will be great. I don't see them trying to top the nexus one when they can already match it. The thing that will set it apart from the competitors is that the iphone does what other phones do, better... even with all of the iphone's shortcomings.
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Old 01-28-2010, 08:38 AM
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im highly against SoC's yes it is clocked at 1ghz but running a pad/tablet on an SoC is nuts. It has to run mem management and gpu's and processing...thats a lot for just 1ghz. I mean 95% of all gpu's (graphics processing units)have between 750mhz and 1ghz just for themselves and a separate cpu clocked at 2ghz+ and separate mem control for real sticks of memory, and are needed to play hd rich content and opengl products. also an HD YouTube video is not High Definition....I dont care what anyone says...unless the pad can play bluray it doesnt play hidef. i also think that is why the pad is forced to run an iphone os because anyform of leapord would not be able to work as smoothly on this SoC. the reason why it is so fast and so smooth is because the OS is dumbed down enough to work reasonably smooth on a SoC in a iPhone. just having a blown up iPod/iPhone with a blown up SoC will increase the performance/battery life on an iPhone os but lets see how it handles anything else. Most netbooks use SoC's aswell but theirs are clocked at 2ghz+ and play hd content on them is still iffy at best. And god knows i would never want to play any MODERN openGl game on a netbook id have to turn all my settings way down and pray that it doesnt skip too badly. what makes the most sense to me is the LED screens put onto the pad..that will clear any content up to look HD in my opinion. So in short...if they wanted to make the pad a lil cooler they coulda put a REAL chip in and made it slightly thicker fit a opengl standard video card (nvidia preferably) and stuck with flash memory and then that thing would be sweet probably run leapord aswell.

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am I the only one who wonder how much RAM the iPad has?
I know officially it doesn't support multitasking - but since we have backgrounder ill be happy to know it has at least 1gb of ram.. no?
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Just because the iPad can play HD video won't make it the selling point, the formats it can play will suck like on the iPhone. No Coreplayer for iPhone users and most people I know hate converting video.
If it's anything to go on since last year, I think Apple will, maybe, might put a 1Ghz processor in it. I'm having my doubts now. The fanbase and sales has gone to Apples head.
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I am also wondering the same thing! If it has 1gb ram then it could handle background processes easily! I hope someone can JB this thing cause thats going to be the only reason I buy it!
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Old 01-28-2010, 10:05 AM
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Pfft, my 3gs has no problem running 10 apps in the background, with the A4 it would fly.
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I would like to see a 1 GHz or higher processor with 512 or higher ram/rom. Seeing how there was no multitasking on that iPad worries me about OS 4.0 will it even have it? :/ I'm really hoping things will get better in June/July.
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:24 AM
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im highly against SoC's yes it is clocked at 1ghz but running a pad/tablet on an SoC is nuts. It has to run mem management and gpu's and processing...thats a lot for just 1ghz. I mean 95% of all gpu's (graphics processing units)have between 750mhz and 1ghz just for themselves and a separate cpu clocked at 2ghz+ and separate mem control for real sticks of memory, and are needed to play hd rich content and opengl products. also an HD YouTube video is not High Definition....I dont care what anyone says...unless the pad can play bluray it doesnt play hidef. i also think that is why the pad is forced to run an iphone os because anyform of leapord would not be able to work as smoothly on this SoC. the reason why it is so fast and so smooth is because the OS is dumbed down enough to work reasonably smooth on a SoC in a iPhone. just having a blown up iPod/iPhone with a blown up SoC will increase the performance/battery life on an iPhone os but lets see how it handles anything else. Most netbooks use SoC's aswell but theirs are clocked at 2ghz+ and play hd content on them is still iffy at best. And god knows i would never want to play any MODERN openGl game on a netbook id have to turn all my settings way down and pray that it doesnt skip too badly. what makes the most sense to me is the LED screens put onto the pad..that will clear any content up to look HD in my opinion. So in short...if they wanted to make the pad a lil cooler they coulda put a REAL chip in and made it slightly thicker fit a opengl standard video card (nvidia preferably) and stuck with flash memory and then that thing would be sweet probably run leapord aswell.
It's not a tablet/netbook/laptop...

It was designed to handle specific tasks, from the keynote it does gaming very well, especially with what EA showed off. I won't truly know until I get my hands on one. Modern console games on a hand held even close to that size won't happen for some time, when it does, every one will complain because the games will be 10yrs old at that point.

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so you are saying it has a 2.4Ghz possessor in it?

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Think of how fun it will be to put an emulator on this and play old nes/snes/gba games...

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Think of how fun it will be to put an emulator on this and play old nes/snes/gba games...

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exactly, thats the only reason i would buy an ipad, for all the jailbreaking ...lol
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