Apple continues to 'sign' 4.1 SHSH blobs

**Mes** · 07-29-2011, 08:35 AM

Good show @Simon. It works

There was speculation Apple is giving 6.1.5 BB users a stock restore path.

**Simon** · 07-29-2011, 08:49 AM

Lol, well I dunno about that. But whatever the reason at least it works.

**Mes** · 07-29-2011, 08:51 AM

lol. I agree. Maybe it's an Apple coding error? (hahahaha)

**tarekelmalah** · 07-30-2011, 01:45 AM

So i was reading what you guys are talking about , and ive been able to save SHSH 4.1 for months now since they (iPhone dev team) has made it possible to put the iPad baseband on ur iPhone,
And i think Apple will keep it open if not they would have millions of useless iPhone 3GS's and that would not work good for their marketing id think , (millions of 3GS useless in the trash?)

Either way since 4.1 there has been no more unlockabe iPhone baseband thats when they started using the iPad baseband And another thing 4.1 when u downgrade to it with iPAD baseband u still get the error and it gets stuck on the recovery loop , but with 4.1 all u gotta do is plug it in too tiny umbrella and exit recovery and it finishes the process , i can not say that is correct with the other iOS that are higher like 4.2.1

so with that said its always possible to downgrade jailbreak and unlock with 4.1 custom or stock firmware for people on iPad baseband e u can make a custom 4.1 with sn0wbreez and restore with itunes and BOOM u're done (of course u need to install ultrasn0w again via cydia) , make sure too use iREB before trying to install a custom firmware !

Hopefully Apple will be smart enough to keep this open i mean it has been months that they have left it open so im guessing its cos of the iPad baseband upgrade that gets u're iPhone stuck ,
(still wondering what tricks they will do with 5.0 will it still be the same? cos iDev has reported they changed the way they sign their SHSH now and once u upgrade u cant downgrade when the official version gets released that is , well be fun to see how apple plays this out)

Originally Posted by Mes

lol. I agree. Maybe it's an Apple coding error? (hahahaha)

yea i know right , like APPLE one of the top billion dollar corporations in the world is gonna make an error like leaving the port open on 4.1, they can see and know how many people r downgrading and they know exactly what they r doing , just seem kinda odd the iDev team NONE of them ever posted anything about this 4.1 hole within apple that they left ?! im guessing its cos they dont want it too be a big thing and then apple blocks it ?! man i dont know really wish i knew what was behide apples mad ways

**Orby** · 07-31-2011, 08:12 PM

Well, well, well...

Orby ran his RNG and this is what he found:

0x5A4B97AB6269 (3GS) -- no blobs available from cysts.saurik.com (74.208.10.249, "Cydia"); 4.1, 4.3.5 and 5.0b from gs-eg.apple.com (17.112.176.11, "Apple").
0x83C041BCCE12 (3GS) -- no blobs from Cydia; 4.1, 4.3.5, and 5.0b from Apple.
0xF3675F29E9 (3GS) -- no blobs from Cydia; 4.1, 4.3.5, and 5.0b from Apple.

The 3GS getting its signatures is no fluke--it's coming straight from Apple. I tested a few others...

0x7CDB9CE5C86B (iPT3G) -- no blobs from Cydia; 4.1, 4.3.5, and 5.0b from Apple.
0xF89172E9567D (iPad 1) -- no blobs from Cydia; 4.3.5 and 5.0b from Apple.
0x59A4EFBD6A23 (iPT4G) -- no blobs from Cydia; 4.3.5 and 5.0b from Apple.
0xBF9EC2312F0D (ATV2G) -- no blobs from Cydia; 4.3.3 (8F305) and 4.4b from Apple.

It's seriously looking like it's just an Apple boo-boo. In my opinion, Apple giving everybody who went with the iPad baseband a free out (via signing 4.1 so they can restore without re-jailbreaking or using FixRecovery) is just way too nice a gesture.

**i.Annie** · 07-31-2011, 08:13 PM

Wonder when Apple will figure it out

**Simon** · 07-31-2011, 08:57 PM

perplexing isnt it

**tarekelmalah** · 08-01-2011, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by Orby

The 3GS getting its signatures is no fluke--it's coming straight from Apple. I tested a few others...

It's seriously looking like it's just an Apple boo-boo. In my opinion, Apple giving everybody who went with the iPad baseband a free out (via signing 4.1 so they can restore without re-jailbreaking or using FixRecovery) is just way too nice a gesture.

Apple doesnt make flukes or BooBoo's when it comes too signing firmware , they closed the 4.1 hole back when 4.2.1 was released they reopened 4.1 after everybody started to put iPAD baseband on there , they will not close it anytime soon i think , cos its already been MONTHS that they left it open and yes u r right it is a nice gesture but its just so they can keep their muti billion company looking good for the public ! its always about money thats all id like too say , and enjoy always being stuck on 4.1 LOL

Originally Posted by i.Annie

Wonder when Apple will figure it out

you really think they dont already know ?!
come on a billion dollar company like apple doesn't know people r downgrading from their servers to 4.1 and they left it open and just forgot for months ?!?! hehehehe
Cute but they know what they r doing , they r doing what ever muti billion dollar company does , keeping their name looking good for their apple clients

(if they do shut it off before the release of 5.0 i would be shocked)

**i.Annie** · 08-01-2011, 01:55 AM

I don't know why you're being so hostile.

**tarekelmalah** · 08-01-2011, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by i.Annie

I don't know why you're being so hostile.

im sorry didnt mean too make it sound that way , im just saying its not a mistake that apple is doing this thats all , sorry if u took anything i said the wrong way !

**Mes** · 08-01-2011, 11:24 AM

Whatever the real reason .... Thank you Apple

**Mes** · 08-08-2011, 06:02 PM

Update 8/16/2011 @ 1600PDT. No change. 3G/3GS/iPT3G SHSH 4.1 blobs are available from Apple

**iYeow** · 08-16-2011, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Simon

Or maybe Tiny umbrella is coded right

I would like to know if a restore to 4.1 not using tiny umbrella and hosts pointed to Apple actually works.

It actually works by just pointing hosts file towards apple server.

**i.Annie** · 08-16-2011, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by iYeow

It actually works by just pointing hosts file towards apple server.

Yeah it will only work that way. With TU SHSHs are used and if SHSHs aren't available, the downgrade to 4.1 will fail. So it needs to point to Apple's server.

**Simon** · 08-16-2011, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by iYeow

It actually works by just pointing hosts file towards apple server.

Yup, I know

**Mes** · 08-16-2011, 06:38 PM

^Yup, I think we all know

**Stray** · 08-16-2011, 07:38 PM

I actually found this handy the other day

**codezs** · 08-18-2011, 02:33 PM

is this still happeing>

**Mes** · 08-18-2011, 02:36 PM

Yes. Verified two days ago.

Check post #1 for periodic updates

**bellyfrog** · 09-01-2011, 11:06 PM

Can someone check this? Just tried to restore my phone to 4.1 and got error message :/

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Good show @Simon. It works There was speculation Apple is giving 6.1.5 BB users a stock restore path.