Verizon CDMA Iphone Jailbreak?

[amadorDIEGO]

I'm wondering if Cydia will ever see the light of day on a Verizon Iphone? I did send a message to Chpwn, and he replied with a "yes" on Twitter. Anybody have any insight?

[Cowboy]

We wont know till we see the phone and somebody can find a hole in the fw

[Cer0]

It should be all the same hardware just a different radio. So who knows.

[amadorDIEGO]

yup i asked around and sum dude said sumthing bout that it might have a different baseband,and kernel. hmmm

[Cowboy]

I dont think that cdma phones have basebands do they?

[amadorDIEGO]

i wish knew. Im sure someone will want the fame of being the first to find loop-hole

[StealthBravo]

It will happen. No doubt.

[amadorDIEGO]

Yeah I'm sure all these Devs are busy with current jailbreaks. That would be nuts, Although Cydia already runs on various carriers! So thats a plus!

[Orby]

I dont think that cdma phones have basebands do they?

They do have transceivers onboard, but they do not have the same chipset (for the iPhone 4, that'd be the Broadcom BCM4329 and the Infineon X-Gold 618).

Assuming they run the same OS (ThreadX or Nucleus), then they could be susceptible to the same crashes that are used for GSM unlocks. Key word "could." It could be an entirely different chipset on an entirely different RTOS and we'd be SOL on an unlock for a while.

For jailbreaking, however, unless Apple has upgraded the S5L8930's bootrom, or are using a new model of processor, then limera1n's vulnerability should still be sitting in DFU mode's instruction set (and therefore we still have unsigned code execution over USB, and therefore a bootrom-based tethered jailbreak ad infinitum on that model).

I would personally be shocked if the next model of iOS devices (iPad 2, any future iPhones) still were vulnerable to limera1n /or/ SHAtter. I mean flat-out floored. This seems like as good a time as any to start releasing "fixed" devices--then again, I thought they did over the holidays last year (and that went over REALLY well /sarcasm).

[Cowboy]

They do have transceivers onboard, but they do not have the same chipset (for the iPhone 4, that'd be the Broadcom BCM4329 and the Infineon X-Gold 618).

Assuming they run the same OS (ThreadX or Nucleus), then they could be susceptible to the same crashes that are used for GSM unlocks. Key word "could." It could be an entirely different chipset on an entirely different RTOS and we'd be SOL on an unlock for a while.

For jailbreaking, however, unless Apple has upgraded the S5L8930's bootrom, or are using a new model of processor, then limera1n's vulnerability should still be sitting in DFU mode's instruction set (and therefore we still have unsigned code execution over USB, and therefore a bootrom-based tethered jailbreak ad infinitum on that model).

I would personally be shocked if the next model of iOS devices (iPad 2, any future iPhones) still were vulnerable to limera1n /or/ SHAtter. I mean flat-out floored. This seems like as good a time as any to start releasing "fixed" devices--then again, I thought they did over the holidays last year (and that went over REALLY well /sarcasm).

Wow okay thanks for the info learned alot right there along with a few new big words lol

But i would be shocked too to say the least if they were vulnerable to SHAtter or limra1n

[amadorDIEGO]

***** i would be happy :d

[StealthBravo]

More than likely the jailbreak will be fairly easy because it will be using the same bootrom. The unlock will happen at some point also.

[Cer0]

Yea the hardware revsions came in Sept or Oct of last 2009. That was to close the previous exploit.

[Orby]

More than likely the jailbreak will be fairly easy because it will be using the same bootrom. The unlock will happen at some point also.

For "N92" (what is rumored to be the CDMA or world iPhone, possibly next-generation), I'd place the probability of the device having the same processor (A4) at 3:2 if I were a betting man. Same bootrom (SRTG: iBoot 574.4) I personally see at 10:1 against.

For "K84" (what is rumored to be the next generation, possibly CDMA or world iPad) same processor is 3:1 against, same bootrom is... shoot, I'd call it at 100:1 against (read: snowball's chance in Hell).

[StealthBravo]

haha well I guess I havent broke it down like that. Im not too worried because its not like limera1n or SHAtter is the last exploit at the moment.

[Orby]

haha well I guess I havent broke it down like that. Im not too worried because its not like limera1n or SHAtter is the last exploit at the moment.

Sure there's at least another iBoot and userland exploit sitting in the tubes, and p0sixninja is gaining on his next bootrom-based madness. And of course, this is what's been hinted at publicly. Who knows what else is cooking on the REAL back-burners.

Geohot has also been quoted with a pithy saying about how iOS hacking isn't like golf; that tidbit is still holding true three-and-a-half years later.

I tend to be very cynical about viability and time-to-live of our hacks, and while I am aware we have some brilliant hackers, I also remember the state of near-pandemonium the hacking community was in about eleven months ago.

TL;DR: I fear any hole closed by Apple may spell the end to future homebrew on iOS. I am also too cynical about these things.

[iYeow]

More than likely the jailbreak will be fairly easy because it will be using the same bootrom. The unlock will happen at some point also.

Unlock ? to use with Sprint USA, obviously cannot be used on T-mobile..

[Cer0]

Even then Sprint would need to manually put the ESN for them to use on their network.

[iYeow]

Wonder what carrier in the states can you use if you unlock this CDMA iphone.

[amadorDIEGO]

I'm just wondering who's going to be the first to crack the puzzle pieces