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I'm sorry, I've research/posted around on other sites trying to figure this out...but I'm still very confused... In the past, to downgrade, I simply ran TinyUmbrella's TSS server with an
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    I'm sorry, I've research/posted around on other sites trying to figure this out...but I'm still very confused...

    In the past, to downgrade, I simply ran TinyUmbrella's TSS server with an SHSH blob that I saved while Apple was signing them and proceeded to restore to whatever firmware version I wanted. Why is this somehow different for the 4S/iPad 2? I saved my 5.0.1 blob a few days ago for my 4S, so why am I not able to downgrade from 5.1 if I chose to update to try it out?

    All I can find is people saying "Oh no! You can't do that!", but offer no explanation as to WHY. Having done this in the past on an iPod Touch/ATV2 (and hacking Android phones like mad), the concept of being prevented from downgrading despite taking precautions/backing things up is really confusing me.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Is there anyway to downgrade from ios 4.3.5 to 4.3.3 using only my
    Iphone 4 as i dont have a computer so i can then untethered jailbreak my
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollytgill View Post
    Is there anyway to downgrade from ios 4.3.5 to 4.3.3 using only my
    Iphone 4 as i dont have a computer so i can then untethered jailbreak my
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    nope

    Quote Originally Posted by mtmjr90 View Post
    I'm sorry, I've research/posted around on other sites trying to figure this out...but I'm still very confused...

    In the past, to downgrade, I simply ran TinyUmbrella's TSS server with an SHSH blob that I saved while Apple was signing them and proceeded to restore to whatever firmware version I wanted. Why is this somehow different for the 4S/iPad 2? I saved my 5.0.1 blob a few days ago for my 4S, so why am I not able to downgrade from 5.1 if I chose to update to try it out?

    All I can find is people saying "Oh no! You can't do that!", but offer no explanation as to WHY. Having done this in the past on an iPod Touch/ATV2 (and hacking Android phones like mad), the concept of being prevented from downgrading despite taking precautions/backing things up is really confusing me.

    Thanks in advance!
    Apple are using a new type of SHSH with 5.0 and later. Basically before when you restored you could use the same SHSH you had before. Now Apple randomly generates a new set of SHSH for every restore which means the SHSH you may have saved for 5.0.1 are useless for a 4S or iPad 2.

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    Default Straight Upgrade to 5.0.1
    Need to unlock 2each iPhone 3GS at firmware 4.1, Baseband 05.14.02. Have just spent 2 weeks on the internet and concluded I should just do iTunes upgrade to 5.0.1 and then unlock.
    I understand some users have favorite games or applications that may not work, or work well, with iOS5, but that's not me.
    Have I missed some benefit to saving 4.1 SHSH or Baseband with Custom 4.1 IPSW? (Perhaps something to do with the new type of SHSU I just saw Simon mention.)

    Note: In 09-15-2010, Post #116, Simon stated " Sorry there is no unlock for that baseband yet. It might be awhile until there is one. " I have not keep up so I don't even know if Baseband 05.14.02 was ever unlocked; if it wasn't, then it seems clear I don't want to save anything and just charge ahead to 5.0.1
    Anyway thanks for this wonderful forum.

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    First post will tell you what baseband can be unlocked. 5.14.02 cannot. Only the ipad baseband method will unlock that. However you cannot simply update to 5.0.1 anymore as Apple is not signing that firmware as of this morning. If you have an old bootrom 3GS then that isnt a issue, you can still go to a custom 5.0.1. If you have a new bootrom 3GS you will need 5.0.1 SHSH and APticket to be able to restore to 5.0.1. Without them you can always stay on 4.1 and unlock as Apple still signs 4.1 for 3GS.

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    Thanks for quick response! Your closing statement for new bootrom of "stay on 4.1 and unlock" combined with the earlier statement that the phones baseband cannot be unlocked would mean that a baseband-only upgrade (since firmware is already at 4.1) is required. For baseband-only upgrade, I only found an unattractive 06.15.00 option. I see 06.15.00 as a problematic dead end. Seems I am left hoping for a quick 5.1 unlock solution unless you can point me to something else or I misunderstand. At this moment I understand the 5.0.1 update I spent the night downloading into iTunes this week will not be activated if I now press update since Apple quit signing that firmware today.

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    Yup, 6.15 baseband is your only option for a software unlock. It's a one way street and it kills gps. Other than that only your carrier can unlock it for you. What carrier is it locked to?

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    AT&T
    Guess I'll put them on the shelf, charge their batteries occasionally and hope to catch another unlock opportunity.
    Thanks for confirming info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by semifocus View Post
    AT&T
    Guess I'll put them on the shelf, charge their batteries occasionally and hope to catch another unlock opportunity.
    Thanks for confirming info.
    There is a new IMEI unlock that is available for AT&T from various sites. It is expensive but I do know that it does work and once unlocked it is permanently unlocked. Cutyoursim.com is one site I have used before to unlock iPhones this way.

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    Can someone help I am running a iPhone with 4.2.1 how can if I can downgrade or jailbreak directly from the Internet to iPhone

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    Hi,
    I have iphone 4 with 4.3.5 fw. I just jailbroke it but it is tethered jb. Is there anyway i can make it untethered or get rid of jb. I just want to stay on 4.3.5.

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    Hi, again
    Is there any way that i can keep bb but any firmware that i can upgrade. I can not see any shsh saved on cydia. It says pending.

    Please help.

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    4.3.5 never got an untethered jailbreak. So you can either tether jailbreak at 4.3.5 or at 5.1. Make sure to use latest snow breeze if you choose 5.1 and need to preserve your baseband.

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    What if i dont want jb. I just wana go back no jb but keep my bb same. Is that possible?

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    If the latest redsnow can make a no baseband 5.1 firmware then yes it is possible. You will still technically be jailbroken but it won't install cydia and will preserve your baseband.

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    Is it going to be tethered jb technically? The thing is i dont want to use redsn0w every time shut off my iphone.

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    If you don't have cydia an therefore don't install anything from it then it won't be tethered.

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    Ok. I will try. Thank you.

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    Save your shsh and APticket with ifaith first just in case.

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    Ifaith? I was trying to save shsh with tiny umbrella but i was not able to do that. It says too late for all fw. I never heard of ifaith.

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