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You wont be able to go to 4.1 without SHSH. You can go to 4.2.1 and preserve your baseband though. Are you on windows or Mac?
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    You wont be able to go to 4.1 without SHSH. You can go to 4.2.1 and preserve your baseband though. Are you on windows or Mac?

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    i am on Windows

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    thank you for the help but the thing is that tinyumbrella still doesn't detect my device and i have run as admin, tried different usb ports...

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    Is your phone in recovery or something?

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    no, it's just in the normal state but i also have tried it in recovery mode but it still doesn't detect it.

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    Does itunes detect it? Have you tried it on another computer?

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    itunes does detect it in both states normal and recovery. and i have tried it on one other computer but it said i have to do some java stuff and i started downloading but it was taking forever to download. and now i'm in the process of trying it on a different computer.

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    Is tiny umbrella giving you any errors when opening it?

    Try downloading the latest too. 4.21.08
    Last edited by Simon; 02-09-2011 at 12:36 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    nope, no errors at all. and i downloaded the 4.21.08 as well and still nothing...

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    Well, i did the same thing but i did not even need tiny umbrella. You need to make sure you have shsh for 4.2.1. You can find out when you open cydia. Put in DFU , open itunes, shift(option) and restore, pick 4.2.1 fw, in the end it will give you 1013 error code, after this device will be in recovery mode. No worry, just put in DFU mode again and apply green poison. Device should be in 4.2.1 and with your 1.59.00 bb. I did on Mac for two of my iphone 4. It worked. Thanks to x98car....

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    @mertbah well i do know that i have the SHSH for 4.2.1 so you didnt have to use tiny umbrella?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mertbah View Post
    Well, i did the same thing but i did not even need tiny umbrella. You need to make sure you have shsh for 4.2.1. You can find out when you open cydia. Put in DFU , open itunes, shift(option) and restore, pick 4.2.1 fw, in the end it will give you 1013 error code, after this device will be in recovery mode. No worry, just put in DFU mode again and apply green poison. Device should be in 4.2.1 and with your 1.59.00 bb. I did on Mac for two of my iphone 4. It worked. Thanks to x98car....
    This will only work without tiny umbrella if you have your hosts pointed to Cydia and not Apple. Telling someone to just do this like you said could lead them to have their baseband updated.

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    @mertbah well i do know that i have the SHSH for 4.2.1 so you didnt have to use tiny umbrella?
    You dont have to use tiny umbrella, but it is much safer to do so then the hosts editing thing. Even if tiny umbrella is not finding your device you should still be able to do it. Are you able to start the TSS server?
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    Quote Originally Posted by x98car View Post
    This will only work without tiny umbrella if you have your hosts pointed to Cydia and not Apple. Telling someone to just do this like you said could lead them to have their baseband updated.



    You dont have to use tiny umbrella, but it is much safer to do so then the hosts editing thing. Even if tiny umbrella is not finding your device you should still be able to do it. Are you able to start the TSS server?
    how would i know if my hosts were pointed to cydia?
    i am able to start the TSS server and it runs fine

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    Your hosts file is located at \Windows\System32\Drivers\etc

    Open it up in notepad and see what it says

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    Quote Originally Posted by x98car View Post
    Your hosts file is located at \Windows\System32\Drivers\etc

    Open it up in notepad and see what it says
    oh that, ive looked at that before and looked at other things where it told me to something. well at the bottom it had this

    74.208.10.249 gs.apple.com
    #127.0.0.1 gs.apple.com

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    That 74.208.10.249 is cydia, so thats what your hosts are pointed to. So if you try a restore to 4.2.1 you should get that error and preserve your baseband. I would say it is still safer to use tiny umbrella and the TSS server but it should work for you either way. That error 1013 is what you want to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x98car View Post
    That 74.208.10.249 is cydia, so thats what your hosts are pointed to. So if you try a restore to 4.2.1 you should get that error and preserve your baseband. I would say it is still safer to use tiny umbrella but it should work for you either way. That error 1013 is what you want to see.
    ohhhh ok thats good then hmmm so would you suggest that i give it a try?

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    You can if you want. Just be aware of the risk.

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    ok well just to update i just tired on a different laptop and i plugged in the iphone and ran tinyumbrella and it detected the device

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