Creating jailbreaks: Exploiting holes..

[Cryptiik]

Hi,

I'm very interested in finding exploits and possibly if/when I get good creating my own jailbreaks and generally being a part of the jailbreak community.
Basically I've been told that to help me find exploits I should be looking into the greenpois0n tools (which I am currently); however now Apple have this public code they will probably patch everything those can find so I kind of need to know a little bit more about how I can find holes/flaws in the OS that I can exploit.
Also once I (or a tool) finds these holes, I need to know more about how I would exploit them. I assume I would need some low level languages (C++ and ASM are some ones I know (well I don't know ASM that well, but I know it's very low level)); Is there any tutorials or lessons on how I can use these to exploit flaws?


Please Help,

Regards,

Cryptiik

[jkmonkey]

Start here:
Main Page - The iPhone Wiki

[Cryptiik]

Start here:
Main Page - The iPhone Wiki

Lots of people seem to say this. I've looked around the site but all I see is information on previous jailbreaks; and not really anything that answers the questions I've asked.

Is there any tutorials or lessons on how I can use these to exploit flaws?

Not that I see of on the site you gave me a link to.

how I can find holes/flaws in the OS that I can exploit.

It tells me information on what holes/flaws previous people have used, but as far as I can tell; not how I can find my own flaws.



Please Help,

Regards,

Cryptiik

[themusclebeach]

Hmmnid suggest you wont find the answer that easily as apple's people will surely be looking at this site and others..... Id say it comes from incredible knowledge of the firmware and code, new code used and alot of background knowledge of this sort of technology....i might be wrong!

[MindGem]

1. Start by making C++ games like GameMaker 8 (yoyogames.com)
2. Make some games that you code yourself in 2-3 years,
3. Make programs with Visual basics.
4. Now you are fimiliar with the C++.
5. Now download a open source like Comex is giving out.
6. Learn what he wrote.
7. Develope your own.



NOTE: This can take 5-6 years so i hope your 12.

[Cryptiik]

1. Start by making C++ games like GameMaker 8 (yoyogames.com)
2. Make some games that you code yourself in 2-3 years,
3. Make programs with Visual basics.
4. Now you are fimiliar with the C++.
5. Now download a open source like Comex is giving out.
6. Learn what he wrote.
7. Develope your own.



NOTE: This can take 5-6 years so i hope your 12.

Already 5 steps ahead of you! I'm an "expert" in C++ and have done Visual Basic as well. I've also downloaded many of Comex's stuff, however most of it seems to be written in C (which is VERY different from C++) so I don't really fully understand it.
I'm trying to look through his code to find ways to exploit flaws, and I will continue to do so; I just wondered if there was an easier way to learn. Also his code doesn't help me find exploits, which I need to do before I can exploit them (I'm looking into greenpois0n tools but they don't seem to help to much (apart from examining the code (which is mostly in C ))).


Please Help,

Regards,

Cryptiik

[jkmonkey]

You can join the dev team on irc. Chat with them. That's your best bet.

[MindGem]

That totally killed my entry...