Rate plans

[Bluemoldycheeze88]

Are they going to offer it with unlimited data?

[Cowboy]

That is what it looks like for $30 a month i believe

[Bluemoldycheeze88]

If they do offer it with unlimited data I might buy one.

[Cowboy]

Lol cool i am a die hard att fanboy but i would like a verizon ip4 just for my massive collection.

[liquidzoo]

The fact that they've been so tight-lipped about plan costs, especially 2 weeks before pre-orders start (for existing customers) and 3 weeks before it officially goes on sale makes me skeptical about them offering unlimited data with it.

They've been wanting to move away from unlimited data for almost a year now.

[DRFP]

Articles on the web are still saying when they contact Verizon the word is

No cannot confirm the Iphone pricing plan

Why?

Its hard to believe that the pricing plan will not be more then it is now, if it was going to be the same then why the secrete......

I do not trust them!

[Essenar]

I would imagine they're just protecting themselves from potential backlash if they do have to change the rate plans. I would imagine >$30 for unlimited more than I would imagine $30 for limited (2gb-5gb) data. And I see them offering more than 2gb if they do limit it, just to steer people away from using an unofficial tethering application and loading tons of data off their phone to their laptops.

[DRFP]

I would imagine they're just protecting themselves from potential backlash if they do have to change the rate plans. I would imagine >$30 for unlimited more than I would imagine $30 for limited (2gb-5gb) data. And I see them offering more than 2gb if they do limit it, just to steer people away from using an unofficial tethering application and loading tons of data off their phone to their laptops.

news from this week was that Carrier's were raising rates now, so it would be no surprise that Verizon will charge more.

Also I bet they blame it on Iphone cost...........LOL

[StealthBravo]

news from this week was that Carrier's were raising rates now, so it would be no surprise that Verizon will charge more.

Also I bet they blame it on Iphone cost...........LOL

I see this happening too

[DRFP]

Posted this on a News story but it belongs here too:

As much as the carriers say "Unlimited" Data, its a lie

Verizon

Link to story

I was looking at the service once again yesterday for someone and decided to see what the terms look like 7–months later. Now they explicitly come out and say that their unlimited plan can only be used for up to 5GB a month otherwise your usage will be considered unacceptable and your service will be terminated (the bold text points out the important things):

Unlimited Data Plans and Features (such as NationalAccess, BroadbandAccess, Push to Talk, and certain VZEmail services) may ONLY be used with wireless devices for the following purposes: (i) Internet browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access to corporate intranets, email, and individual productivity applications like customer relationship management, sales force, and field service automation). The Unlimited Data Plans and Features MAY NOT be used for any other purpose. Examples of prohibited uses include, without limitation, the following: (i) continuous uploading, downloading or streaming of audio or video programming or games; (ii) server devices or host computer applications, including, but not limited to, Web camera posts or broadcasts, automatic data feeds, automated machine–to–machine connections or peer–to–peer (P2P) file sharing; or (iii) as a substitute or backup for private lines or dedicated data connections. This means, by way of example only, that checking email, surfing the Internet, downloading legally acquired songs, and/or visiting corporate intranets is permitted, but downloading movies using P2P file sharing services and/or redirecting television signals for viewing on laptops is prohibited. A person engaged in prohibited uses, continuously for one hour, could typically use 100 to 200 MBs, or, if engaged in prohibited uses for 10 hours a day, 7 days a week, could use more than 5 GBs in a month.

For individual use only and not for resale. We reserve the right to protect our network from harm, which may impact legitimate data flows. We reserve the right to limit throughput or amount of data transferred, and to deny or terminate service, without notice, to anyone we believe is using an Unlimited Data Plan or Feature in any manner prohibited above or whose usage adversely impacts our network or service levels. Anyone using more than 5 GB per line in a given month is presumed to be using the service in a manner prohibited above, and we reserve the right to immediately terminate the service of any such person without notice. We also reserve the right to terminate service upon expiration of Customer Agreement term.

So the important part of the verizon statement:

Anyone using more than 5 GB per line in a given month is presumed to be using the service in a manner prohibited above, and we reserve the right to immediately terminate the service of any such person without notice. We also reserve the right to terminate service upon expiration of Customer Agreement term.

So the Verizon "unlimited" is not ( there is no Santa Claus )

At&t is more honest with the 4gb then Verizon and will not cut you off ( just charge you) Verizon may cut you off.............

[i.Annie]

The 5GB cap was something that most people who cared to look deeper into it already knew about. At least I already knew about it. At least theyre giving 5GB for $30 rather than AT&T giving 2GB for $25.

[DRFP]

The 5GB cap was something that most people who cared to look deeper into it already knew about At least I already knew about it. At least theyre giving 5GB for $30 rather than AT&T giving 2GB for $25.

While I have the unlimited grandfathered At&t plan for $30 I know it has the 5GB cap, difference is I used over 5GB several months last year and At&t never said a peep to me in a letter or email.

Verizon and At&t have the same fear, too many internet users. They fear that the Iphone is popular enough to cause a system overload if they allow people freedom to use the internet.
They must enforce limits to protect themselves. Sad really, to lie and get people into a contract and get away with it all this time, where are the Feds on this false advertising?

My point is all carriers enforce a cap when they see what they consider excessive use, even the cable internet or DSL providers to homes do this. DL is a sin per ISP's

My argument is why so these carriers advertise modems for Internet access? why? Some give you computers as well. To me its a double message.

We can provide internet to you but if you use it and a lot then we will cut you off....... Hmm makes you wonder why they get to have the pie and eat it too?

[lanulos]

I am a longtime Verizon Wireless customer, and this morning I ordered a VZ iPhone4 for my daughter. It requires a minimum of a $29.99 unlimited data plan, or $44.99 for a "corporate" data plan (whatever that is). But at the bottom of the page it says:

My daughter has the $15 150MB plan on her current Alias2; apparently they will let us keep that if I call.

[PapaJohnX]

I am a longtime Verizon Wireless customer, and this morning I ordered a VZ iPhone4 for my daughter. It requires a minimum of a $29.99 unlimited data plan, or $44.99 for a "corporate" data plan (whatever that is). But at the bottom of the page it says:

My daughter has the $15 150MB plan on her current Alias2; apparently they will let us keep that if I call.

Even if they do, It's very likely that she will burn that up within 2 weeks. Unless of course she does nothing but check email and barley browse some web pages.

[i.Annie]

Even if they do, It's very likely that she will burn that up within 2 weeks. Unless of course she does nothing but check email and barley browse some web pages.

+1. heavier data users will use 150MB quick. I use that in 3-4 days but I'm a pretty heavy data user. 150MB is for people who very rarely use it, like they'll use it to google something up real quick or like you said, send/receive a few emails now and then.

[lanulos]

Even if they do, It's very likely that she will burn that up within 2 weeks. Unless of course she does nothing but check email and barley browse some web pages.

Perhaps she will change her habits, but she's had zero data use on the Alias2, even though the 150MB data plan is required. She does need the $20 texting plan. She rarely surfs on her iPod Touch 3; mainly uses music and videos she syncs from her Mac, and plays a few games. We will see.

[lanulos]

That scanned paragraph from the feature selection which I posted above in post #14 on the previous page, about being able to keep an existing data plan such as 150MB/$15/mo., is not being honored by Verizon. I talked to a representative and a supervisor, and they would not let me downgrade from the unlimited plan. Besides, they discontinued the 150MB/$15/mo. plan on Jan 30th, I think they said, and replaced it with a 75MB/$10/mo. plan, which I also could not switch to. So I'm stuck with $29.99 a month no matter how little she uses.