Why did I buy an Iphone? Jailbreak but may be no more?

[DRFP]

"Systems and Methods for Identifying Unauthorized Users of an Electronic Device,"

Read more: Apple applies for patent to kill jailbroken devices | Apple - CNET News

This article shows Apple's true colors

They are big brother! They are IBM, The Man!

Once Andriod catches Up I think I may just trash my Iphone, not sell it but sledge hammer and burn it. I feel so dirty now!

The application also describes a variety of measures that could be used to help identify the unauthorized user, including the activation of a camera that could capture and geotag the device's surroundings, and perhaps current user, and transmit that information to a remote device:

In some embodiments, an unauthorized user can be detected by comparing the identity of the current user to the identities of authorized users of the electronic device. For example, a photograph of the current user can be taken, a recording of the current user's voice can be recorded, the heartbeat of the current user can be recorded, or any combination of the above. The photograph, recording, or heartbeat can be compared, respectively, to a photograph, recording, or heartbeat of authorized users of the electronic device to determine whether they match. If they do not match, the current user can be detected as an unauthorized user.

When unauthorized use has been detected, "access to particular applications can be restricted, access to sensitive information can be restricted, sensitive information can be erased from the electronic device...," the application states, effectively wiping and bricking the device.


Read more: Apple applies for patent to kill jailbroken devices | Apple - CNET News

All this so they can control you and your device!

Its my phone and I should be allowed to jailbreak it and open it.

Yes I know the warranty is no good so what? its not that good anyway!

[jkmonkey]

"Systems and Methods for Identifying Unauthorized Users of an Electronic Device," this says it all. Unauthorized USERS not unauthorized use. The intent with this patent is security for YOU the owner of the iPhone. It's similar to the way you can already remotely wipe the device through MobileMe if it's lost or stolen. What apple is going for here is to make the phone smart enough to recognize that it's been stolen and at that point try to locate itself and wipe your personal info. This is not an attempt to disable your phone if you jailbreak.

[iNT3Rv3NTiONZz]

Jkmonkey has it right, even if it was to detect jb I'm sure the debs will find a work around. Trust me, jailbreaking is going to stay around for a bit longer

[DRFP]

"Systems and Methods for Identifying Unauthorized Users of an Electronic Device," this says it all. Unauthorized USERS not unauthorized use. The intent with this patent is security for YOU the owner of the iPhone. It's similar to the way you can already remotely wipe the device through MobileMe if it's lost or stolen. What apple is going for here is to make the phone smart enough to recognize that it's been stolen and at that point try to locate itself and wipe your personal info. This is not an attempt to disable your phone if you jailbreak.

Sorry since when do you believe anything like this at face value? Come on I was not born yesterday! Of course they can not come right out and say "If we find that the Iphone is using a program that we feel violates our patent in anyway then the owner will be photographed and recorded for evidence of use and prosecution" You are believing its for US but believe me its a two way street, please tell me you are not sonaive


Theres more to this sad story

Apple’s official statement.

Apple’s goal has always been to insure that our customers have a great experience with their iPhone and we know that jailbreaking can severely degrade the experience. As we’ve said before, the vast majority of customers do not jailbreak their iPhones as this can violate the warranty and can cause the iPhone to become unstable and not work reliably.

There is a different legal implication, though, more distant from the end user. Apple has argued in the past that jailbreaking should actually be illegal, because it involves modification of Apple’s code, and also because it encourages piracy. These objections have been essentially thrown out the window: the first falls because the actual amount of modification done in jailbreaking is extremely small (therefore falling under fair use), the second (already on shaky ground) falls because jailbreaking is a perfectly legitimate way to promote interoperability, among other things. Ars Technica has a little more on this.

I thought this was put well

How will Apple respond to the DMCA revision? They won’t.


The problem is, when you are dedicated to defending a company you tend to turn a blind eye and believe they are always "Good"

Apple is starting to truly look evil now. Do not believe propaganda!

I own an Iphone 3g and Itouch and Ipod

But I'm not happy with these latest attacks on my devices by Apple, I already cannot use Itunes because it takes away function from my Jailbroken phone, since when is this right? they mess with my property without my permission, you think they will not use this kind of permission as they wish? It will only be used for my good? Yes yes, they already with Itunes have proven not to be trustworthy, a snake has a nature, its your fault to trust it not to bite you!

[Madman604x]

"encourages piracy" do skimpy clothes encourage rape? Buffet lunches encourage obesity? Rap music encourages our youth to hold guns sideways?

in the end its what the user decides to do with the choices he has.

[i.Annie]

...then go get an android. It is indeed user choice Madman604x, I agree

Its also user's choice to throw away the iPhone and get an android instead of sitting here hating and whining about it.

[jkmonkey]

*shakes head* looks like it's time to break out the tinfoil hats.

[Robcoffee]

If you use a device that has an Internet connection then you leave a digital footprint - the only way round it is to have no registered Internet connection and use free wifi hotspots. Any mobile Internet device will have a log with the isp of your browsing history, same for home broadband - websites visited, files downloaded and files uploaded, e mail sent and received. Compared to this Apple filing to provide remote services for a 32gb iPhone which for most of us carries our lives - Facebook to ebay for convenience I certainly like just clicking the app and it loads my profile with no password entry - well until I left it on a bus/plane/train or got pissed with an iPhone tester and left it in a bar - and the person who picks it up has one click access to my life - now a little bit of protection starts to make sense. What has this to do with Jailbreak? Apple has to make sure your personal data stays personal - that's the point of jail - when we jailbreak it's the digital equivalent of handing our personal information to a shaven headed heavily tatoo'd dude in a back alley and saying "hey man' make my life more fun" - it's a gamble, maybe it'll be ok and maybe you'll wake up in a gutter with no idea what you did last night and a sore *** - and spend the next few weeks finding your bank accounts have been plundered and all your friends got their houses robbed on the evenings out they posted on Facebook.

This isn't an iPhone issue, it's a digital life issue - and whatever platform you choose will face the same challenges - the users will hate them for "restricting" their device - and when they break that restriction and get proper ****** - "like the hare" then the platform provider will be blamed for making it too easy for them to break their protection and end "up **** creek without a paddle".

I've been jail breaking since I first got a 2g early 08, I love the entire iPhone experience but most of all I love the 3rd party tweaks that make it all mine - I have recently picked up a 32gb i4 but as it came on 4.0.2 - so I am still using my jailbroken 32gb 3GS on 4.0.1 because I can't enjoy an iPhone without customs sounds, tlert for quick text response, haptic pro, intelliscreen, backgrounder, myprofiles - custom theme. This is what makes it the mobile for me, but I know in that back of my mind that my self indulgence leaves me wide open to exploit - that's my gamble and I feel the rewards are worth the risk.

[DRFP]

...then go get an android. It is indeed user choice Madman604x, I agree

Its also user's choice to throw away the iPhone and get an android instead of sitting here hating and whining about it.

What! I'm not "whining" and I'm not so in love with Apple as to insult someone telling the truth.

Not one thing I posted was exaggerated, its worse to defend a company blindly then to realize there are faults.

Apple is plainly trying to have complete control at our expense.

What I posted does not exist yet, so when I bought an Iphone it was not anticipated. ( I started with the first gen)

I and others have a right to be upset.

To tell someone to just "Accept" the absurd is well the road of a coward............At some point you have to "man up" and do something about it.

I'm willing to deal with this issue.

Glad your happy with putting the covers over your head and then try to make fun of those brave enough to want to put up a fight.

*shakes head* looks like it's time to break out the tinfoil hats.

Yeah you would look good looking like an idiot, nice insult there buddy. BTW if you read what I posted the sources are "CNET" and "ARS Tech" LOL respectable sources, most of the report is about what Apple is trying to do, I just said I was upset and felt what Apple wants to do is infringement on my privacy. I do not see why I should like Apple snooping on me and possibly bricking my Iphone because they want to. Maybe its strange to you but I like my privacy and to be able to use my phone! LOL

(Me reading the constitution, shaking his head in disgust at all the people asleep allowing our freedoms to be taken away)

[area51crypto]

Jailbreaking had to be officially legalized.

Before its over you will be able to install other apps than from the Apple Apt Store.

Its just like other cellphones and it is also like a PC with Windows on it or a Mac with OSX on it you can buy a mulitiude of software for them as it should be with iPhone.

Things are going to change and a change is what we need.

The Justice Dept and other agencys are investagating Apple and I can see Apple loosing the total control of the iPhone.

I really think in the future you will not have to jailbreak to do what is being done through jailbreaking now.

Just My Opinion

[DRFP]

Jailbreaking had to be officially legalized.

Before its over you will be able to install other apps than from the Apple Apt Store.

Its just like other cellphones and it is also like a PC with Windows on it or a Mac with OSX on it you can buy a mulitiude of software for them as it should be with iPhone.

Things are going to change and a change is what we need.

The Justice Dept and other agencys are investagating Apple and I can see Apple loosing the total control of the iPhone.

I really think in the future you will not have to jailbreak to do what is being done through jailbreaking now.

Just My Opinion

You see I agree with you

Apple is going through this and yet still puts out this new request to be allowed to take our picture and record us stuff on Aug 22 2010, you know it just happened, its amazing how much Gaul a company can have.

[DRFP]

I've done some reading out on the net, this story has been picked up all over the place and there are two camps

those who believe this is nothing, Apple would never ever use this power against its users only when the Iphone is stolen

and others like me who feel its too much power in the hands of a private company who may just change the way they use this to decide if you use the phone in a way they feel is unauthorized then it fits the protocol to brick your phone.

So I can't understand why people would think its ok to give this power to Apple, who refuses to agree that Jailbreaking is legal. You honestly think they will not use this to turn the tables and destroy your phone because you are violating the Apple software in some way? LOL Wow.

( And if you make fun of me and think I'm crazy, just know I think your the insane one for thinking Companies care about you. Naive )