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View Poll Results: What is the Best GPS App??
Navigon 25 69.44%
G-Map 1 2.78%
Sygic 6 16.67%
Other(State in post) 4 11.11%
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Old 08-16-2009, 01:49 AM
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I had bought both Sygic and Navigon. Their strengths and weaknesses are.

Navigon
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Stregnths
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- Nice UI as far as input is concerned. It used standard iPhone keyboard, and the map can be pinched, spreaded, and moved.
- Integrates with the iPhone contact database.
- Has the "reality view" although I have not seen it pop up during my use. It is only for very few intersection I guess.

Key weaknesses
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- Terribly outdated map, at least for Australia. Lots of new roads not incorporated.
- In Australia, there is almost no road speed limit in the database. Hence, it is not able to provide overspeeding warning. I guess less than 0.001% of the road may have speed information. I'm talking about Sydney Metropolitan area roads here, not some rural roads. This is one of the most disappointing failures from my perspective.
- There is no red light warning.
- There is no speed camera warning.
- There is no ability to warn when approaching a school zone.
- The road name are too small, with non-contrasting color, making them very difficult to read.
- The GPS signal is weak and unreliable as compared to Sygic. I tested this again and again and found this to be consistently the case.
- There is no full trip simulation capability. Only the last few meters are simulated.
- The information displayed on the main navigation screen are insufficient. In the first version, only two pieces of information can be displayed. One of the top bar and one at the bottom. To see more information, you need to touch these bars to rotate through the various key navigation information, making driving hazardous.
- Weak POI database.
- No text to speech.

Sygic
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Key weaknesses
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- Does not use standard iPhone keyboard, and can't zoom in and out by spreading and pinching. Sygic promised to implement these in the next version though.
- Does not integrated with the Contact databse. This is promised in the next version.
- No text to speech yet, but this again is promised in the next version.
- When a phone call terminates, users has to press "Yes" to the legal disclaimer screen again, but this screen will be removed in the next version.

Key Strengths
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- Very good GPS signal strenght. Promised to be even better in the next version.
- Map is faultless. Really really good. 99.999% of the road contains the legal speed limit. Able to provide visual/audio warning for overspeeding.
- Able to warn when approaching speed camera and red light camera. I wish they separate the two though.
- Able to warn when approaching any chosen POI, including schools.
- Great choice of map colors, text colors, text sizes.
- All key navigation information are there without having to fiddle with the device: Estimated arrival time, current speed, remaining time, etc.etc.

99% of the time when I use my GPS it is not because I don't know how to get there. It's because I wanted it to monitor my speed, warn me of speed camera, red light camera, and remind me to reduce my speed from the legal speed limt down to 40km/h when in school zone during school hours. I do not usually set a destination in these situation. So, Navigon simply does not meet my requirement 99% of the time.

I hate the non-iPhone keyboard and the way of map zooming in Sygic. However, once set, the information displayed is far better than that of Navigon. The voice instruction itself is also better and clearer.

I've since asked for refund for my Navigon, and am now using only Sygic.

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Old 08-16-2009, 04:58 PM
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Navigon problem

Ok I decided to get Navigon but now I'm getting this message EVERY TIME I try and use it.

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Anyone know why??
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Old 08-16-2009, 10:45 PM
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That's what you see when the GPS signal is weak or unstable. You need to wait longer for it to go away automatically. Or go out and be under open sky to get better reception.

Some software are able to lock on to GPS signal better than the others. Navigon is not one of those strong in this department.
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Old 08-16-2009, 10:47 PM
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I think everyone should hold off on buying navi...tomtom just got released and it may be better
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Old 08-17-2009, 02:53 AM
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now what we need if for someone to review Tom Tom !!!1
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Thank god... Yea we need some reviews because this navigon isn't working no matter how many times try or how long I wait.
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Old 08-17-2009, 04:29 AM
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The best IMO will be TomTom. Looks like you need to start a new poll. I voted Sygic before but now it is no longer the best, with TT around.
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:50 AM
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just because CoPilot isn't out in Aus yet eaglesteve
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I place great value in iPhone style UI. I hate not being able to use the standard keyboard and navigate with iPhone style buttons and structure. Also love the route calculation of TT from the winmo days. In Australia, the sensis map which TT uses is the best. Sensis is the mapping partner of Tele Atlas. I've already seen lots of instances where Navtaq maps are inadaquate in Navigon, and Copilot uses the same map. Copilot has always lack commitment to customers in Australia. Hence it ranks very low in my opinion.

I've no loyalty to any brand. Nobody pays me to say nice things about their product. I don't get free software from anyone to put in good words on their behalf. TomTom is the most expensive of all the iPhone GPS so far, but I have no hesitation getting it because I want the best.

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Old 08-17-2009, 09:47 PM
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TomTom FTW!!!! ;D
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Old 08-18-2009, 01:32 AM
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Copilot has always lack commitment to customers in Australia. Hence it ranks very low in my opinion.

I've no loyalty to any brand. Nobody pays me to say nice things about their product. I don't get free software from anyone to put in good words on their behalf. TomTom is the most expensive of all the iPhone GPS so far, but I have no hesitation getting it because I want the best.
Co Pilot is based in Europe and the USA and certainly here in the UK is streets ahead of TomTom. It may be defferent in Australia.

I have bought CoPilot for the iPhone with my own money as I did the very first version of CoPilot I bought 5 years ago.
Most other versions of CoPilot I did, indeed, receive free as I beta tested it for them, not to say good things about the software. If I didn't believe it was the best I wouldn't say so, in fact, I wouldn't beta test for them. I believed ToTom was better I would beta test for them instead.
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Confucious,

Yes, the map quality of that country would have a big impact on the overall acceptability of the GPS. However, I actually expect TeleAtlas to be better than Navteq in Europe including UK (in general) and Navteq to be better than TeleAtlas in US (in General).

I've used Copilot, iGO, Garmin, Mapking, Navigon, Sygic, Tom Tom and a few others (I don't mention those usually because they are so poorly rated that I removed them within a day of using them. Over the years my "best" software changes.

You would remember in the Athena forum I was a iGO diehard, right? There was a brief period during which it was actually better than TomTom version 6. When TomTOm 7 came along, iGO actually went backward in terms of useability, so TomTom replaced it and had been my favourite for a long time.

With iPhone, I only have three choices in Australia: Sygic, Navigon, and TomTom. I really like Sygic's functions and features (only thing missing is the contact database integration), but I really hate a software not using the standard iPhone keyboard and standard multitouch UI. Hence, I bought Navigon and now TomTom.

At this point in time, I rank the available iPhone software for Australia to be Sygic, TomTom, then Navigon. This is despite Sygic's inferior UI.

If I travel to South East Asia, Sygic is the only choice as none of the more established brand has maps for those region. In Malaysia, even Sygic is terrible as its address format is completely different from that used in Kuala Lumpur. Alternatively I would use my winmo Garmin and Mapking still, although I really hate to bring along more devices. Mapking is still the best GPS in Asia, with no credible competition. Garmin comes close, but not anyone else. So, as you can see, the "best" software depends on which country we're buying it for. One size does'nt fit all.

If Copilot is released in Australia, I'd definitely give it a serious consideration, since none of the three really fully meet my expectations still. I don't want to assume that just because I did'nt like my previous Copilot experience then this will automatically be bad.

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Old 08-18-2009, 04:36 AM
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... I don't think I want to read all that...

Today (well yesterday) Navigon practically saved my life.. After taking 10 minutes to find a GPS signal that is.
But I'm glad I had it.. Getting lost in Yosemite because you listened to a crazy garmin navigator is not fun.
My mom is so afraid of mountains now. We live in the heights and she got scared to go up our street.
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Old 08-22-2009, 09:55 AM
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I like CoPilot
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