[antoniomch]

Well well... the 2.2 ver of iphone firmware is out... and so what??!?!
I bought my iphone 3G in July 2008, and I'm a bit disappointed...
It's like having a main frame computer to make calculations like 1+1 or 2*2...
It's a GREAT peace of hardware, no doubt about that, but the factory software is poor, the iTunes software e poor and the 3rth party software is a bit better, but also poor... I have this opinion probably because my last phone was a Windows Mobile PDA
But I explain...

• Bluetooth - ONLY to use with hands free equipment.... Do not need to say anything more correct?
• GPS - A bunch of funny app's, but no software with the abilities of software's like TomTom or NDrive or Garmin. The other applications could be funny, but are they really really useful?
• Contacts - There are no grouping, no categorization of contacts for example
• Synchronization - If the phone has WiFi and bluetooth.... why not sync via WiFi or Bluetooth ??
• iPod - Why not a personalized equalization ?
• Mail - There are many many attachment format's not readable by the internal mail app
• Player - Does not read WAV, AVI, and many other common file formats
• Phone - No native MMS... Every phone nowadays as MMS... every phone but iphone!

These are only some thing I can remember now...
I hope in near future some more useful software appears
If I'm wrong, please reply or comment

[Poseidon79]

Bluetooth - known to be highly restrictive since the iPhone first came out.
GPS - Ok but not great.. you're right.
Contacts - you can skip to the contact you need or use quick gold to jump right to a contact. what do you need groups/categories for?
Sync - there are 3rd party apps that will wireless sync
iPod - there are 22 EQ options in the settings... if that's not enough fine tuning then you have issues!
Mail - what file formats can't you read?
Player - This is an APPLE! product. What else did you expect? haha
MMS - again.. another known issue with the iPhone. SwirlyMMS works great unless you're with AT&T which is blocked. There has been reported success though in some cases. I am one of those cases

As for the iPhone vs ANY windows mobile phone I would pick the iPhone any day of the week! The apps from Cydia are wonderful. Winterboard lets you mod out your phone completely... and the App Store has over 3,000 programs to choose from. I don't understand your disappointment.. everything you named off seems pretty minor.

[Eurisko]

Originally Posted by antoniomch

• Bluetooth - ONLY to use with hands free equipment.... Do not need to say anything more correct?
• GPS - A bunch of funny app's, but no software with the abilities of software's like TomTom or NDrive or Garmin. The other applications could be funny, but are they really really useful?
• Contacts - There are no grouping, no categorization of contacts for example
• Synchronization - If the phone has WiFi and bluetooth.... why not sync via WiFi or Bluetooth ??
• iPod - Why not a personalized equalization ?
• Mail - There are many many attachment format's not readable by the internal mail app
• Player - Does not read WAV, AVI, and many other common file formats
• Phone - No native MMS... Every phone nowadays as MMS... every phone but iphone!

Bluetooth: What else would you have Bluetooth do that WiFi can't?

GPS: TomTom et al, all require built-in Maps which take up 1GB or more space. Apple has not come out with Turn-by-Turn directions yet because the technology to download the maps in real-time is still too clunky, and unlike other software makers (aka MS) Apple will not release software they know will operate in a sub-standard fashion.

Contacts: Grouping is assigned via your computer. (Outlook for PC, Addressbook for Mac). When you're looking at your contacts on the iPhone, you'll see a big friendly "Groups" button at the top left where you can categorize.

Synchronization: Because USB2 is the fastest?

iPod: Again, personalized equalization is done through iTunes on your computer. Just make sure "Sound check" is enabled on your iPod.

Mail: What attachments? I can view .txt, .jpg, .png, .doc, .rtf, .xls ...

Player (aka iPod): Made by Apple, why should it play someone elses codecs? Does Windoze Media Player play Quicktime movies? Nuff said.

MMS: Old argument. Why send a picture message when you can send an email?

[boxxa]

Well everyone has their preference of what is useful or not. I have 295 contacts in my phone and use the search constantly. Also, there is apps that allow you to start typing and search your contacts (QuickGold I think).

No Turn by Turn is a known missing feature. Personally, I would not use it beyond what it does now where I look at a list of directions and tell me where I would need to go.

Also, MMS is a feature of that again would be cool but something I do not rely on. You can use your email account to send pictures to other phones so its not completely impossible.

I do wish Apple would open up their software and allow developers to code new applications to handle these features since they refuse to but they are set in their ways.

There is some great things I like on it beyond a WiMo and Treo phone. I love the WiFi and ability to have command line tools. Makes using networking and security testing great and give me what I need to read emails on the go. Also love the actual REAL web browser (yea minus flash but again, not a big deal for me) which is a petpeve of mine on any other cell phone. If I am paying $30 a month for data I want the full internet, not a one column version of a text only page.

[antoniomch]

If we compare the availability of app's to Iphone and to Windows Mobile... there are no comparison. Comparing the harware, Iprefer the iphone in almost everything

Bluetooth...
I cannot understand the restrictions
And What can bluetooth do that wifi can't... simple. Many other phones and mp3 players, notebooks have bluetooth not wifi, they can make file transfers with other bluetooth machines... not with iphone.

GPS...
I had TomTom in my PDA. With European map's it didn't take more then 300 or 400MB

Contacts...
I have more then 200 contacts, personal, business, etc.. Grouping and categorizations would make easier the search

Phone... I agree, Swirly MMS is very good indeed, it works for me in Portugal, but it's a standard in other phones...
And why not search contacts directly in the dial pad? Like is I want to call "Ana" I press the keys 2, 6 and 2?

IPod... I agree with you, it's probably a minor issue...

Synchronization... yes, probably faster, but not as fast as wifi, and I'm not "tied" to my PC every time I need to sync with ITunes

Mail... Does not view WAV, AVI. I know this is an apple machine. But I'm also talking here about 3rth party applications

[Eurisko]

Originally Posted by antoniomch

GPS...
I had TomTom in my PDA. With European map's it didn't take more then 300 or 400MB

haha, that's because the European union would fit inside Taxas. We're talking North American maps here.

[antoniomch]

One more thing about MMS...
There are more phones in the world, and few can use email, and the one who can have to use the internet connection to receive or send an email. Receiving an mms has no charge from the mobile operator
Receiving an MMS is immediate, receiving an email could be immediate, the phone needs to access the internet from time to time to check the mail
It's not quite the same thing

[Eurisko]

It's not the iPhone's fault the lessor phone's don't have email capabilities. by the by, my mobile operator (Rogers) charges big time for MMS. Email however is covered in the Data package. With PUSH, receiving an email is also immediate. And needs to check the internet from time time to? MMS has to check the Message Server, what's the diff?

[antoniomch]

Originally Posted by Eurisko

haha, that's because the European union would fit inside Taxas. We're talking North American maps here.

The release of the Iphone 3G was almost worldwide, not only in USA

[Poseidon79]

)Please.. not ANOTHER thread that digresses into a MMS vs email war, haha.

[Eurisko]

Originally Posted by antoniomch

The release of the Iphone 3G was almost worldwide, not only in USA

We're not talking about the iPhone. We're talking about the required size of GPS turn-by-turn mapping. So you're saying TOMTOM should only release it's software in Europe because the maps are smaller?

Regardless of our view points, Apple will release turn by turn when they believe its ready. And they won't let third party Turn-by-Turn Apps be on the iPhone because of liability impacts. It's just a question of time.

[CaptainChaos]

Originally Posted by antoniomch

One more thing about MMS...
There are more phones in the world, and few can use email, and the one who can have to use the internet connection to receive or send an email. Receiving an mms has no charge from the mobile operator
Receiving an MMS is immediate, receiving an email could be immediate, the phone needs to access the internet from time to time to check the mail
It's not quite the same thing

Since when is MMS free? This is news to me.

To Eurisko: Bluetooth headphones! I am not into the bluetooth headset that everyone is sporting now a days, but man! I really want my headphones.

[Eurisko]

Originally Posted by Poseidon79

)Please.. not ANOTHER thread that digresses into a MMS vs email war, haha.

It's like the PC vs. Mac. LOL No one is going to budge the others view point.

Originally Posted by CaptainChaos

To Eurisko: Bluetooth headphones! I am not into the bluetooth headset that everyone is sporting now a days, but man! I really want my headphones.

True enough, but I'd rather sacrifice the wireless for more battery time.

[CaptainChaos]

Originally Posted by Eurisko

It's like the PC vs. Mac. LOL No one is going to budge the others view point.



True enough, but I'd rather sacrifice the wireless for more battery time.

I have given up on my war against the battery. I am going with an external battery that the phone slips into. It should be at my house when I get home in a couple of weeks

MMS is crap. The pictures are horrible. All nextgen phones will go the route of email and I will be so glad when they do. Then this convo will never happen again.

[antoniomch]

I could not agree most. Yes MMS is crap, the future lies in the Internet no doubt.

Probably my issue is really Apple vs Microsoft

Apple innovates, in that field it's the 1st
Microsoft, and windows applications builders follow most of the times those ideas

But why not maintain some compatibility, or letting IPhone freely, and simply communicate with other equipments for example...