[StealthBravo]

For all those wondering, it was awesome!

[him121213]

HAHA!!!

ya anyone wondering can pm me but it is pretty hilarious but inappropriate for the forums

[cpjr]

^The biggest flaw in your argument there....."Apple says"

Jailbreaking is only "illegal" according to Apple, and Apple doesnt make the law.

There has been NO court judgment to conclude that jailbreaking is indeed illegal.

However, pirating software is.

[cpjr]

^The biggest flaw in your argument there....."Apple says"

Jailbreaking is only "illegal" according to Apple, and Apple doesnt make the law.

There has been NO court judgment to conclude that jailbreaking is indeed illegal.

However, pirating software is.

[epsilon]

Originally Posted by cpjr

I guess Im going to sound real harsh then....

We do not allow/tolerate ANY type of cracked/warez/pirated discussion of any sorts, ever. end.

Hacking the iphone isnt illegal, your comparing apples to oranges.

Just so you know, it is illegal to jailbreak an iPod/iPhone.

Apple filed these comments, in opposition, which is the first time it's explicitly said that jailbreaking itself is illegal ('cause copyright infringement is, well, not legal). The bottom line, according to Apple, is that the act of jailbreaking itself constitutes copyright infringement because it "involves infringing uses of the bootloader and OS, the copyrighted works that are protected by the TPMs being circumvented." Feb 13 2009

[CaptainChaos]

Someone should post a sign on the front door(ie...during registration to the site) that this sort of convo is prohibited.

[cpjr]

Check above your post Epsilon....I responded but it glitched and my post is actually above yours.

[him121213]

i like to call it post scrambling

lets not get into this please... kthnx

until there is an official court hearing it doesnt matter, and what the hell do we care? we are going to do it anyways. as for cracking it is not allowed here because of ethics more than legality

[cpjr]

^Im not saying it couldnt be copyright infringement.

BUT, until it goes through the proper legal battles.....its not "legally illegal" if that makes sense.

So, Apple saying its illegal doesnt make it....and for that reason we cant actually "get in trouble" for doing it.

The reason we are the way we are with anything cracked/pirated/warez (which really is by law illegal) is because this site MMi has been in more than one legal battle with Apple all ready and it costs $$$$

[cpjr]

^Im not saying it couldnt be copyright infringement. I agree.

BUT, until it goes through the proper legal battles.....its not "legally illegal" if that makes sense.

So, Apple saying its illegal doesnt make it....and for that reason we cant actually "get in trouble" for doing it.

The reason we are the way we are with anything cracked/pirated/warez (which really is by law illegal) is because this site MMi has been in more than one legal battle with Apple all ready and it costs $$$$

[him121213]

^^^ in case you havent noticed we dont distribute modified versions of apples firmware, we simply provide the tools to modify it. what the user chooses to do afterwords is out of our hands

[him121213]

WHAT THE ****

cash fix this ****

[epsilon]

Originally Posted by CaptainChaos

Someone should post a sign on the front door(ie...during registration to the site) that this sort of convo is prohibited.

Thanks, but it is mostly just a continuation of a side discussion, so I hope my post does not infringe on the rules.

In response, Cpjr, do you really believe that the jailbreaking is immune to copyright infringement? It is distributing modified firmware that is copyrighted by Apple and by jailbreaking it is infringing upon Apple's intellectual property.

Do not take this the wrong way. I support jailbreaking and am simply letting you know so that you do not make another similar statement without knowing the facts.

[epsilon]

I understand the legal talk, and I heard about the lawsuit. I hope nothing like that happens again.

Originally Posted by him121213

^^^ in case you havent noticed we dont distribute modified versions of apples firmware, we simply provide the tools to modify it. what the user chooses to do afterwords is out of our hands

By your logic many warez and software cracks etc. are legal, (which we know is not true.) Facilitating copyright infringement is illegal, thepiratebay is an example of such. I wish it was not so, but it is.

[CaptainChaos]

Nothing is facilitated here. That was his point.