Need help (Need your knowladge about iPhone)

**Uko** · 06-12-2007, 02:12 PM

Hi guys!

I really need your help.

Look there are some people here in Ukraine that want to get iPhone.
It's not hard for me to ask my friend from USA to buy couple of them & take them here during his vacation. But I don't want to do something stupid, so I need some info.

•Do USA and European iPhones differ?
•Can I convert american iPhone into Ukrainian?
•Will it be hard to find out how to translate iPhones software into other language?
•Will iPhone support "voice over IP"?

I think you got my idea.

Waiting for replies!
Uko

**Kyle Matthews** · 06-12-2007, 02:21 PM

I assume they will differ slightly-an iPhone is coming to Europe later this year. Unlocking is not available yet obviously, since the phone isn't out, but it won't take too long... I'm sure it will be simple to translate, as it runs OS X. Someone will have to code it is all. No word on VOiP but I doubt it.

**Uko** · 06-12-2007, 02:38 PM

I know that iPhone comes out later in Europe, that's why I'm wandering if I can buy it in US & convert then.

**Kyle Matthews** · 06-12-2007, 02:45 PM

Once its unlocked and the SIM restrictions are removed, it should be fine...

**Uko** · 06-12-2007, 02:48 PM

What means unlocked?

**Kyle Matthews** · 06-12-2007, 02:50 PM

Unlocked means, in the US phones come "locked"--you can ONLY use them with one carrier. If you try to put in a SIM card from a different phone, it will not let you make any calls, and sometimes it won't even let you start up the phone. Unlocked simply means this SIM restriction is removed.

**Uko** · 06-12-2007, 02:53 PM

Damn... That's stupid.
Do you think it'll take a lot of time to hack it?

**Kyle Matthews** · 06-12-2007, 02:54 PM

Weeks, not months.

**Uko** · 06-12-2007, 02:59 PM

Cool. Why won't Apple sell just normal unlocked phones?

**Kyle Matthews** · 06-12-2007, 03:35 PM

Same reason there's not a single phone in the entire US that sells from ANY carrier thats unlocked. Profit.

**Uko** · 06-12-2007, 11:42 PM

We don't have any locked phone in UA.

**Kyle Matthews** · 06-12-2007, 11:45 PM

I know.

**Uko** · 06-13-2007, 01:15 AM

Are you sure that iPhone will be locked? I understand some cheap thing that you buy for $10 & have only one operator. But iPhone is very cool thing. Imagine if I want to use it just as palm or something. Are cool NOKIA smart-phones sold locked too?

**Kyle Matthews** · 06-13-2007, 01:23 AM

EVERY phone is locked. Nice phones are locked HARDER than cheap ones. The iPhone is a BIG pull for AT&T, so they want it to stay locked, so people have to buy AT&T to have it.

**moond0ggie** · 06-13-2007, 07:33 AM

Uko, the carrier will also entice us to use their service by offering an expensive phone at a great discount, to sign on a service agreement contract. They will "lock" the phone to only work with their service to prevent you from changing your service to another carrier.

**ColsTiger** · 06-13-2007, 09:15 AM

Lock means subsidy lock. The carrier subsidizes the cost of most phones they offer in the US. The Motorola V3xx, which is relatively new here in the US, sells for $49.99 with a two year contract. The phone probably would cost $300 if you bought it outright from Motorola, but Cingular/At&t recoups the price of the phone over the length of the two year contract. This way they can offer cheap prices on nice phones. The iPhone is not supposed to be subsidized, but I expect it to still come subsidy locked to the Cingular/At&t network. Now they could surprise everyone and release it without a subsidy lock and rely on disabling the features unless you have a Cingular/At&t sim card. Obviously, the visual voicemail feature would not work and no one really knows how you would configure it to work on another network, but that's where the guys in this forum will shine. IF using the iPhone on more networks than Cingular/At&t is possible, we'll learn about it right here!

**Uko** · 06-13-2007, 10:18 AM

So if I'll buy iPhone without subsidizes it won't be locked, right??
That's what I'm talking about. $500 or $600 but works with every sim.

**Kyle Matthews** · 06-13-2007, 12:54 PM

Hahahaha Uko, THERE WILL BE NO UNLOCKED IPHONES unless someone figures out how to unlock them and sells the codes/software. Until then, we're all in the same boat--locked iPhones is all there is.

**Uko** · 06-13-2007, 02:11 PM

Too bad.

**moond0ggie** · 06-13-2007, 03:01 PM

Some service providers will give you a temporary unlock code for your phone if you ask nicely, to travel abroad. You have to be a customer in good standing for 90 days or more to qualify.
Not sure that the iPhone will be configured to allow that, as of yet.
I'm sure AT&T will be inundated with requests for that courtesy.

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