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  1. #1741
    Thanks for all the words of encouragement y'all
    I'll say I do get frustrated but try to not let it bother me.
    I'll still do what I do regardless.

    Sk3tch thanks for the post dude and the icon psd's
    And I wasn't only really referring to my packages, some big name themers you all know and respect I've had the I guess the unfortunate opportunity to see total legit sales (numbers and dollars) vs just a small portion of the pirated downloads. It's ridiculous when you look at it. And it's only getting worse

    As Jima6636 said to me the other day these guys don't even give a chance to a creator to make a few bucks. A year or so ago, maybe more now you'd see your stuff pirated after a week or maybe two after it was released.
    My last three packages were done in under two hours of release. Its inevitable in this day and age that it will be pirated but even the pirates should give a chance for creators to get a little something back.


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  3. #1742
    Quote Originally Posted by Azjonnyg View Post
    So you're saying you've never used pirated software, downloaded a CD, downloaded a movie, downloaded TV shows, recorded a football game without the express written consent of the NFL, used your neighbors Wi-Fi, complained at a restaurant to get free dessert, stolen cable, gone to a potluck and not contribute, downloaded music instruments or samples, complained to your cable company to get better or more premium service, Picked up a dollar off the street that you know didn't belong to you, Parked at a parking meter that already had money in it, not even once?!? Sainthood is in your future! I'm not as big of a music pirate as my original post makes me out to be I do listen mostly to mix tapes and I purchased a lot of music off iTunes, I've also pirated my fair share of music however I always make sure to support the artists and the only person that I feel any guilt towards is the artist and the lowly studio engineer because I know how tough of a career it is to break into much less to be successful at. I do not however feel any pity for the RIAA, record companies, record executives, agents or anyone down the chain the only ones that I feel any sort of guilt towards are the artist and the studio engineer. The napster generation could also be considered the troll generation :-) ...
    No, I'm not a regular stealer of other people's things. The only time I've ever been drawn in to 'crossing' the line is 'demo-ing' something before I buy it. Many companies don't offer demo periods -- and the reason they don't is PRECISELY BECAUSE of the potentials for cracking of their software. So I've occasionally given in to using a cracked version as an evaluation period. But within 30 days I always erase things and then buy them if I want them. As to 'the Napster generation' -- it's all an 'I deserve this because I want it' mentality. It's just immaturity. When you get into the real world you learn a different story. You can't just 'take' what you want - because it's available. I call 'thieves' thieves - because that's what they are. And we don't use precise language anymore in this moral relativistic culture brought in by the Millennial and Internet generations.

    You're probably a great guy, Azjonnyg. But on this topic I just can't give you an 'inch' because you'll (and others that think the way you do) take that mile and try to find ways of justifying it to yourself... greedy record companies, blah, blah, blah.. It's all just nonsense to try and make you feel less guilty about the stealing. There's a 'Robin Hood' mentality in the younger generations too. I feel the same way about unlocking in-contract phones - but that's been debated to death in other threads... Won't go there here..

    Bottom line. Downloading pirated music is stealing. There's just no argument that can make it be something else. It is, IN FACT, 'stealing'. Now you can justify it all you want and we can agree or agree to disagree on your 'justification'. But don't CHANGE the terminology to make yourself feel better. Don't say it's not stealing - when it clearly is. Go ahead and say... "MY STEALING IS JUSTIFIED by x, y, x...."... But don't call it something it's not. That's all I'm asking. Well - I'm also asking you NOT to do it.. Go out - get off your butt playing games on your computer all day -- get an extra job - and download from iTunes and other reputable sources that pay the artists for their creation. It's NOT hard.
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  5. #1743
    The artists have enough money so ill gladly steal there music. If they stop bragging about the fact they have all they have then 10 mins later try and tell me how hard they have it ill reconsider my stance on it.

    What's wrong with Robin Hood mentality, maybe of more people were sensitive to others situations that mentality would disappear.

    Also stop blaming kids until you can back it up. Biggest pirates out there are 25+. Ill produce my facts when you do yours.
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  7. #1744
    @NewdestinyX it takes a big man to admit he's a thief. I respect you for that.
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  9. #1745
    well you can blame each other, i pay the creator most of all because i know the time they spend to get all the bitchy people happy, the people that cant create anything on their own, but always demand new stuff, better stuff, personal stuff, and so on, i dont have much money on my own these days, but i always support the creator's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Nicoll View Post
    Is the the WW thread?

    Sorry Derrick, I'm gonna shut up.
    Never think that you have to shut up on this thread Ian. Treat it as your own bro!
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  13. #1747
    Quote Originally Posted by GUNNY29 View Post
    Also stop blaming kids until you can back it up. Biggest pirates out there are 25+. Ill produce my facts when you do yours.
    25+ for business software.. 10+ for music.. Phone apps. No-brainer as to why that would be the case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heine View Post
    well you can blame each other, i pay the creator most of all because i know the time they spend to get all the bitchy people happy, the people that cant create anything on their own, but always demand new stuff, better stuff, personal stuff, and so on, i dont have much money on my own these days, but i always support the creator's

    respect
    Exactly Heine. In 1st and 2nd world cultures - Stealing is always about laziness and basic disrespect in the form of a sense of "entitlement".
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  15. #1748
    Not proof. I shouldn't of expected anymore tho really.

    Just told you my reasons for it and neither were laziness or disrespectful.
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  16. #1749
    Quote Originally Posted by GUNNY29 View Post
    The artists have enough money so ill gladly steal there music. If they stop bragging about the fact they have all they have then 10 mins later try and tell me how hard they have it ill reconsider my stance on it.
    This statement doesn't speak well of how you roll, bro.

    Quote Originally Posted by GUNNY29 View Post
    Not proof. I shouldn't of expected anymore tho really.
    .
    You know darn well you don't have a proof text for your statement. We don't need one. It's common sense. Those "without" and bored kids in affluent cultures take and are usually the young. History teaches us that.

    [EDITED to get rid of personal attack phraseology. ]
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  17. #1750
    My character is fine thank you. Who's coming with the personal attacks now.

    I buy a lot of music but also pirate a lot.

    I pay for everything jb related cause devs themers modders don't sit and brag about how much $ they got. It's needed.

    If they want to try and fool me into thinking they are hard up they should prob give up throwing it in our faces.

    I'm by no means jealous, good luck to them. Just don't treat me like a fool and expect me to respect them enough to give them more of it.
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  18. #1751
    Quote Originally Posted by GUNNY29 View Post
    My character is fine thank you. Who's coming with the personal attacks now.

    I buy a lot of music but also pirate a lot.

    I pay for everything jb related cause devs themers modders don't sit and brag about how much $ they got. It's needed.

    If they want to try and fool me into thinking they are hard up they should prob give up throwing it in our faces.

    I'm by no means jealous, good luck to them. Just don't treat me like a fool and expect me to respect them enough to give them more of it.
    So following that 'logic' I'm gonna guess that you're discriminating with your stealing. Those artists who "don't brag" you don't steal from, and those that "do brag" you steal from. Right? Or are you an "equal opportunity" thief, Gunny?

    As to "personal attacking". I don't do it. I only ever speak about "actions and behaviors" of people. Not "them AS" people. People do many things out of ignorance - which doesn't make them bad people - but their actions can be addressed and judged for what they are.

    I'll admit using the word "character" speaks to a person as "they are". I will withdraw that statement Gunny.. It is likely over the line. Edited my other post.
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  20. #1752
    Asking a question I've already answered lol

    You called me a thief because of the facts you have gathered from my posts I won't deny it I know it's stealing but not the same as if I walked into my local shop filled my pockets and walked out without paying, which I wouldn't do. I can live with that label with no guilty conscience at all.

    Yet when I've called you ignorant, misinformed etc etc in past conversations due to the facts I gathered from your posts you call it a personal attack. Double standards?
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  21. #1753
    Tag I'm in Gunny?

  22. #1754
    You got it krima gone midnight here I'm off to bed. Good night
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    I'll be honest. How can you really consider obtaining music stealing. I may be older, but don't they play all that stuff for free on the radio?

    So I can record all I want from the airwaves, but if I download it, then I'm stealing?!?!

    That's just whacked!
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  24. #1756
    I apologize for this being off topic, but this cross-word clue is driving me nuts. The clue is "exaggerated dignity; pretentious" the word is. _om_ _ _ s

    Anyone have a clue what it could be?
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  25. #1757
    Quote Originally Posted by GUNNY29 View Post
    Asking a question I've already answered lol

    You called me a thief because of the facts you have gathered from my posts I won't deny it I know it's stealing but not the same as if I walked into my local shop filled my pockets and walked out without paying, which I wouldn't do. I can live with that label with no guilty conscience at all.

    Yet when I've called you ignorant, misinformed etc etc in past conversations due to the facts I gathered from your posts you call it a personal attack. Double standards?
    No. Here's why. Calling someone a thief CAN be determined from a person's own statements about their personal actions. Calling someone "ignorant" brings in a burden of proof element where you must prove the person wrong with a preponderance of facts. Though I don't remember the specific series of posts that you're referring to in the past where you're sure you proved me wrong and I didn't admit it, still the distinction I'm making remains.

    So, no, it's not a double standard. They're two entirely different situations one requiring a burden of proof and the other simply discernible by reading someone's account of their regular actions.

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  26. #1758
    Me calling you ignorant,misinformed was discernible by my reading of your posts so yeah I was spot on.
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  28. #1759
    Quote Originally Posted by King_O_Hill View Post
    I'll be honest. How can you really consider obtaining music stealing. I may be older, but don't they play all that stuff for free on the radio?

    So I can record all I want from the airwaves, but if I download it, then I'm stealing?!?!

    That's just whacked!
    If you can't see the difference, bro.. Well.. I just can't help you. .. But I think you DO see the difference and just want to stir the pot..

    Quote Originally Posted by GUNNY29 View Post
    Me calling you ignorant,misinformed was discernible by my reading of your posts so yeah I was spot on.
    And yet you still produce no proof - leaving the question of which one of us is ignorant - still unaddressed. . In the end - stealing is still stealing. And I won't drop the word.

    Any moment now Simon will swoop in and clip all these posts and put them in The Great Debate thread. One I no longer read.. So take your shots now!
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  29. #1760
    Now from your posts I can safely say once again your ignorant and pretentious.

    Your proof of me being a thief is me stating it.

    My proof of you being ignorant is in pretty much all of your posts. Whether you see it or not
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