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    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    Yeah BABY!! This XML file database has also really opened me up to a whole new level of js coding. The JSON calls were more Greek to me.. But "obj.xxxxxx = $(this).find..." makes more sense to me..
    Little correction, the xml file is a text file, not a database!

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Durben View Post
    ..... So Grant continually posting the same issue with your town, neighbourhood, county ect is becoming extremely repetitive......
    True!
    It is appreciative that Grant is posting about lots of different subjects as this can be very informative for "noobs" that would like to know but are too scared to ask. However, filling page after page with the same location name subject is overload. We all know that Yahoo's location name system is, well, quite far from perfect. I know why I have used Google's location name system instead over the last 18 month or so, maybe Grant you should try that as well.

    Ian's suggestion about the Xcode project files is potentially a good idea, but would suggest to still have one person/team that is in the final control of tweak update releases, just to prevent a confusing number of individual tweak version floating around

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    Quote Originally Posted by rasputin007 View Post
    We all know that Yahoo's location name system is, well, quite far from perfect. I know why I have used Google's location name system instead over the last 18 month or so, maybe Grant you should try that as well.
    Au Contraire, my friend. .. The issues I'm having have nothing at all to do with Yahoo naming conventions. In fact when Widget Weather is working correctly it updates the XML even when I'm in the same city and just cross a township line or come to a new section of a city. In fact, there's a 3 mile stretch near my home where Widget Weather updates 4 times in that 3 mile stretch giving me all PERFECTLY accurate names for "main city", extraLocCity and Neighborhood. With great respect, Ras, if you've understood my input to be complaining about Yahoo's localization and city naming convention, I believe you may have misread me. ..

    Now - Yahoo is terrible for weather accuracy for small towns near large cities. THAT you HAVE heard me complain about for years. But NOT about their localization or city naming conventions which are 100% accurate for me down to the 10th of a mile - in my testing.

    Now the REAL problem right now is the tweak updating the XML from Constant mode.

    And Durben & King.. Do you guys keep your phones on 24/7 just recharging overnight? Never a cold boot? Or do you daily cold boot?

    I don't.. Never cold boot. And last night my phone ran out of battery and was off for a couple of hours. When I rebooted this am.. Widget Weather on my drive to work today auto updated 5 times - exact amount it should for the areas I travel thru. Perfect. For the last "three days" I've needed to create an activator gesture for toggling on and off Loc Services to force WW to update.

    Would that maybe indicate that a fix to the GPS localization process that Stephen's undertaking may not solve this at all? That maybe we're dealing with an $ajax cache stuck issue like we were hunting down for months with myLocation? If the tweak CAN, EVER, work perfectly and can seemingly be gotten "unstuck" by a simple cold reboot - then the basic localization process has to be sound. No?

    What would I be missing in that "best guess"?

    P.S.
    This restaurant I frequent for breakfast sits right on the line between two townships. As I turned in the parking lot my iWidget said:
    Blue Bell
    Whitpain Township

    After I sat down in the restaurant it flipped to:
    Norristown
    East Norriton Township

    Now THAT's "accurate localization"
    Last edited by NewdestinyX; 09-06-2013 at 09:18 AM.
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    As I understand; swipe gestures don't work with Winterboard themes, but couldn't a swipe gesture be added to the Widget Weather widget, and when toggled "on" the springboard theme that uses WW could use it to execute an action like showing ten day forecast or changing overlay or wallpaperbg or any number of things? Am I to far out of the box?

    Edit: I meant to say Winterboard SB themes.
    Last edited by mcooper; 09-06-2013 at 10:30 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    Au Contraire, my friend. .. The issues I'm having have nothing at all to do with Yahoo naming conventions. In fact when Widget Weather is working correctly it updates the XML even when I'm in the same city and just cross a township line or come to a new section of a city. In fact, there's a 3 mile stretch near my home where Widget Weather updates 4 times in that 3 mile stretch giving me all PERFECTLY accurate names for "main city", extraLocCity and Neighborhood. With great respect, Ras, if you've understood my input to be complaining about Yahoo's localization and city naming convention, I believe you may have misread me. ..

    Now - Yahoo is terrible for weather accuracy for small towns near large cities. THAT you HAVE heard me complain about for years. But NOT about their localization or city naming conventions which are 100% accurate for me down to the 10th of a mile - in my testing.....
    Sorry if I have misunderstood you, but you were going on about city, neighbourhood, township, county etc, combined with my experience about Yahoo's crap location system (incl. iOS Weather App) that in fact the location naming was at the heart of your rant.
    Did not know that you meant Yahoo's weather conditions, that seems to be a bit inaccurate.

    Quote Originally Posted by mcooper View Post
    As I understand; swipe gestures don't work with Winterboard themes, but couldn't a swipe gesture be added to the Widget Weather widget, and when toggled "on" the springboard theme that uses WW could use it to execute an action like showing ten day forecast or changing overlay or wallpaperbg or any number of things? Am I to far out of the box?
    I am afraid to say you understood wrongly!
    Swipe gestures are possible in Winterboard themes, see [Preview] Swipe - Lockscreen theme only!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rasputin007 View Post


    I am afraid to say you understood wrongly!
    Swipe gestures are possible in Winterboard themes, see [Preview] Swipe - Lockscreen theme only!!

    I meant Winterboard SB themes. Are swipe gesture possible with springboard themes? I apologize for the confusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rasputin007 View Post
    Sorry if I have misunderstood you, but you were going on about city, neighbourhood, township, county etc, combined with my experience about Yahoo's crap location system (incl. iOS Weather App) that in fact the location naming was at the heart of your rant.
    Did not know that you meant Yahoo's weather conditions, that seems to be a bit inaccurate.
    I reread my last 6 posts, Ras, and they're all very favorable to Yahoo about naming accuracy and how great it was WHEN WW would update the XML. That's been my (several of our) only complaint. I've heard of Yahoo city naming issues in Europe & Asia but in US, using whatever feed we're getting from weather.app is amazing. Well actually my weather app city name is NEVER what WW sends to my widgets. So they must be using even something different from Yahoo than what weather.app gets. But city naming for me is AWESOME and you all know I'm VERY picky.

    What I keep being 'repetitive' about are my musings about why WW isn't updating properly - NOT about the quality of the data I'm getting - WHEN constant node is working.

    I hope that's clear now. I can't imagine Google giving me any better accuracy for city.neighborhood,city2 data. I'm amazed!

    Yahoo WEATHER, still sucks.

    Quote Originally Posted by mcooper View Post
    I meant Winterboard SB themes. Are swipe gesture possible with springboard themes? I apologize for the confusion.
    Yes.. Activator uses them liberally for starting tasks. Have you used the tweak Activator yet?
    Last edited by NewdestinyX; 09-06-2013 at 01:07 PM.
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    You can if you make it a iWidget but not just a sb

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    I reread my last 6 posts, Rad, and they're all very favorable to Yahoo about naming accuracy and how great it was WHEN WW would update the XML. That's been my (several of our) only complaint. I've heard of Yahoo city naming issues in Europe & Asia but in US, using whatever feed we're getting from weather.app is amazing. Well actually my weather app city name is NEVER what WW sends to my widgets. So they must be using even something different from Yahoo than what weather.app gets. But city naming for me is AWESOME and you all know I'm VERY picky.

    What I keep being 'repetitive' about are my musings about why WW isn't updating properly - NOT about the quality of the data I'm getting - WHEN constant node is working.

    I hope that's clear now. I can't imagine Google giving me any better accuracy for city.neighborhood,city2 data. I'm amazed!

    Yahoo WEATHER, still sucks.

    Yes.. Activator uses them liberally for starting tasks. Have you used the tweak Activator yet?
    I use activator. Quite familiar with it actually. And a few other widgets that allow swipe gestures. What I'm wondering is Can a swipe gesture be added to WW that would trigger an action in the springboard widgets using WW? I get that the SBwidgets are independent and "pull" info from the XML but could WW "feed" a command to the SBwidget? (Probably a question for the dev)

    Quote Originally Posted by RKO1195 View Post
    You can if you make it a iWidget but not just a sb
    Exactly. The iWidget tweak allows touch gestures in the widgets that use it. I'm just wondering if WW could be made to do the same for SBWidgets.
    Last edited by mcooper; 09-06-2013 at 11:44 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcooper View Post

    Exactly. The iWidget tweak allows touch gestures in the widgets that use it. I'm just wondering if WW could be made to do the same for SBWidgets.
    WW itself doesn't have any kind of functionality like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    WW itself doesn't have any kind of functionality like that.
    Wouldn't it be a nice feature though! I don't doubt that its possible, and with the amazing things that the WW dev has done with the iwidget platform(iwidget tapper for those who may not be familiar), I don't doubt his ability to make it work. Only thing is....would the juice be worth the squeeze? Anyway, I'm mostly just thinking out loud. We could talk about location issues if you want? No?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcooper View Post
    Wouldn't it be a nice feature though! I don't doubt that its possible, and with the amazing things that the WW dev has done with the iwidget platform(iwidget tapper for those who may not be familiar), I don't doubt his ability to make it work. Only thing is....would the juice be worth the squeeze? Anyway, I'm mostly just thinking out loud. We could talk about location issues if you want? No?
    You're talking about making a different tweak.
    Widget Weather gets location and weather info.
    We can display it on lock or SB (SB through winterboard or iWidgets)
    Other than that there is no way to add functionality to it.

    Tap can be used in an iWidget. But not swipe gestures. Swiping will move the whole SB page.
    If you override that with a tweak you won't be able to swipe your SB pages back and forth.

    Swipe gestures can be used on the lockscreen though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcooper View Post
    We could talk about location issues if you want? No?
    Lol, please no

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  21. #1113
    I have a trip from my home in Philly area to upstate NewYork today. So far the updating has been perfect today. After my cold boot last night it's like WW is completely happy in Constant Mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post

    Now the REAL problem right now is the tweak updating the XML from Constant mode.

    And Durben & King.. Do you guys keep your phones on 24/7 just recharging overnight? Never a cold boot? Or do you daily cold boot?

    I don't.. Never cold boot. And last night my phone ran out of battery and was off for a couple of hours. When I rebooted this am.. Widget Weather on my drive to work today auto updated 5 times - exact amount it should for the areas I travel thru. Perfect. For the last "three days" I've needed to create an activator gesture for toggling on and off Loc Services to force WW to update.

    Would that maybe indicate that a fix to the GPS localization process that Stephen's undertaking may not solve this at all? That maybe we're dealing with an $ajax cache stuck issue like we were hunting down for months with myLocation? If the tweak CAN, EVER, work perfectly and can seemingly be gotten "unstuck" by a simple cold reboot - then the basic localization process has to be sound. No?

    What would I be missing in that "best guess"?
    Mostly my phone is always on. Even at night when charging.

    As I've said already, the localization side is being redone.
    Until it is, we don't know what issues it may or not fix or any others that may come up.

    A full boot of your phone resets pretty much everything so it's not surprising that tweaks then kick in when it boots up.


    "If the tweak CAN, EVER, work perfectly"

    Come on now....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rasputin007 View Post
    Little correction, the xml file is a text file, not a database!


    True!
    It is appreciative that Grant is posting about lots of different subjects as this can be very informative for "noobs" that would like to know but are too scared to ask. However, filling page after page with the same location name subject is overload. We all know that Yahoo's location name system is, well, quite far from perfect. I know why I have used Google's location name system instead over the last 18 month or so, maybe Grant you should try that as well.

    Ian's suggestion about the Xcode project files is potentially a good idea, but would suggest to still have one person/team that is in the final control of tweak update releases, just to prevent a confusing number of individual tweak version floating around
    We wouldn't be posting these up. They would just be PMs
    And we would still be only pushing the tweak that comes from Stephen
    Even if implementing say for example that Ian looked at it and found something useable, would be incorporated in release.
    Last edited by The_Durben; 09-06-2013 at 01:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Durben View Post
    You're talking about making a different tweak.
    Widget Weather gets location and weather info.
    We can display it on lock or SB (SB through winterboard or iWidgets)
    Other than that there is no way to add functionality to it.

    Tap can be used in an iWidget. But not swipe gestures. Swiping will move the whole SB page.
    If you override that with a tweak you won't be able to swipe your SB pages back and forth.

    Swipe gestures can be used on the lockscreen though.
    True. It would be like making a completely different tweak and somehow incorporating it with WW. Probably would be a ton of work for something that would more of a novelty than a useful feature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    I can't imagine Google giving me any better accuracy for city.neighborhood,city2 data. I'm amazed!
    Google location works the best of all location name services.
    Based on latitude and longitude I get the correct county (yahoo & iOS Weather App give me the neighbouring county!), the correct village name (Yahoo does not know it, but iOS Weather Apps does sometimes) and I also get the correct street name. OK, the house number is wrong, but all sat navs I have used do the same, however even with wrong house number my location is spot on on Google maps. That's why I have been using Google location service for so long.
    Being able to switch between Yahoo, Weather Underground and WorldWeatherOnline within seconds, there is always a difference between what they report, Yahoo seems to lag from a time delay. For example, we have showers right now, Yahoo says "Partly Cloudy". 45 minutes later the showers had stopped 20 minutes ago and Yahoo now says "Light rain". You see what I mean.
    None of the three weather services is perfect and spot on every time, but I found Weather Underground to be the best of them. btw Weather Underground have a free weather app, really quite nice!

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Durben View Post
    We wouldn't be posting these up. They would just be PMs
    And we would still be only pushing the tweak that comes from Stephen
    Even if implementing say for example that Ian looked at it and found something useable, would be incorporated in release.
    This sounds like a very sensible idea to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Durben View Post
    Guess I could post this here too.

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    hi...have a little problem with this LS,the weather does not update after 30 min(it takes longer,sometimes 2 or 3 hours)as set in setting
    i have weather widget installed from kohidevice repo,have not changed anything,does my location services need to be turned on whole time or something else,thanx
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    Quote Originally Posted by meth357 View Post
    hi...have a little problem with this LS,the weather does not update after 30 min(it takes longer,sometimes 2 or 3 hours)as set in setting
    i have weather widget installed from kohidevice repo,have not changed anything,does my location services need to be turned on whole time or something else,thanx
    If you are using the semi or constant mode for location, then yes, location services need to be turned on so that it can access the GPS chip and get your current location.
    Widget Weather 2.0 App Currently in Public Beta for iOS 8 only!
    Check out the thread here - Widget-Weather 2.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by meth357 View Post
    hi...have a little problem with this LS,the weather does not update after 30 min(it takes longer,sometimes 2 or 3 hours)as set in setting
    i have weather widget installed from kohidevice repo,have not changed anything,does my location services need to be turned on whole time or something else,thanx
    Location services should be on if your using Constant or Semi
    As for the update time, yes it gets stuck for people sometimes. Toggle Semi to Constant or vice versa or reboot your phone

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    i use fixed,but yes when i toggle any of the option then the weather updates,thanx for responce
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