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Old 09-15-2007, 01:36 AM
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why not just bluetooth to an external gps device?
i'd rather not carry anything xtra around.
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Old 09-15-2007, 09:27 AM
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why not just bluetooth to an external gps device?
Thats what i was thinking
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actually, i'd rather use real gps via bluetooth than rely on poorly triangulated positions, anyone whose ever driven in Europe will know how bad GPS cab be when it comes to your position on roundabouts or in ye olde vilages, also, google maps isnt great at point to point navigation, consider having to re-calculate a journey on route, on the fly based on google maps, I'd much rather use teleatlas maps on TomTom or equivilent
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Old 09-15-2007, 01:43 PM
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actually, i'd rather use real gps via bluetooth than rely on poorly triangulated positions, anyone whose ever driven in Europe will know how bad GPS cab be when it comes to your position on roundabouts or in ye olde vilages, also, google maps isnt great at point to point navigation, consider having to re-calculate a journey on route, on the fly based on google maps, I'd much rather use teleatlas maps on TomTom or equivilent
its still a step down unless its all built in. idea here is internal operation with nothing additional. no one is saying that a external devices shouldn't also work but something internal, so that atleast when i open map, i can easily search for something around me.

basally just something else so that we don't have to relay on something external or xtra but still have the option of having the external device also.
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u need to call CTU and ask them to track u constantly.

In order to triangulate, u need to have made phone calls using other cell towers. Then they need something to keep track of which tower u used recently.

So, u will need access to their network servers, "No".
911 can do it because they r the POPO,
they can request these types of information under emergency situations or with a court order.

wait for that GPS transponder ... much more likely to happen than the former.
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Old 09-16-2007, 06:47 AM
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i'd rather not carry anything xtra around.
Have you seen the some of some of these ? About the size of the average car key so no real hardship to carry one.
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:39 AM
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Have you seen the some of some of these ? About the size of the average car key so no real hardship to carry one.
yes i have seen them. Its still something xtra. i'm not saying it shouldn't be done. but the idea is of a built in feature of maps that can pinpoint your location.
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Old 09-16-2007, 04:14 PM
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Which is going to be a pain, as stated above - while software using an external GPS receiver...which could just be left in the car...would not be.
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:48 AM
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It feels like both of these options have usefulness - much in the way Wifi & EDGE bounce back & forth. The built-in software based GPS would benefit greatly from being plugged into a real unit from time to time. In speaking with a tech at Navizon, it seems that their system is based on users mapping areas first. You can do this with a real GPS enabled phone & their software or alternatively with a laptop & bluetooth GPS unit. The software tracks as you move around and submits nodes...etc. for their software based GPS to use. The iPhone won't connect to a bluetooth GPS yet. According to the Navizon tech, Apple didn't add the Serial port driver in the Bluetooth stack.

Anyone know enough about Bluetooth stacks to hack this?

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It feels like both of these options have usefulness - much in the way Wifi & EDGE bounce back & forth. The built-in software based GPS would benefit greatly from being plugged into a real unit from time to time. In speaking with a tech at Navizon, it seems that their system is based on users mapping areas first. You can do this with a real GPS enabled phone & their software or alternatively with a laptop & bluetooth GPS unit. The software tracks as you move around and submits nodes...etc. for their software based GPS to use. The iPhone won't connect to a bluetooth GPS yet. According to the Navizon tech, Apple didn't add the Serial port driver in the Bluetooth stack.

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yeah I read that on their site, thought it was funny that you have to use a real GPS to map your zone....in order to use the fake GPS.......
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Old 09-20-2007, 04:09 PM
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SOMEONE needs to map your area with a GPS, not you
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:52 PM
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Guys check this out......

http://iphonefaq.org/archives/97278
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Old 09-21-2007, 08:18 PM
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I dunno why no one has really even bothered to mention that this Software if available via the Installer through the iphone. I saw it and read some information on it and yes, this thing really does work pretty damn well, with the exception of the areas that people with GPS devices have not mapped in their system. They must be mapped by a individual GPS enabled device that is logged into their Navizon account locating themselves, I personally would love to get one of these so I can map out my entire area.
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