SU Password

[bsdaiwa]

Some time ago I must have changed the su password on my iphone. When I use Putty I get the prompt “login as” and I can enter root and enter my password and gain access. Is that the same as the su password? I really don’t know what su is so the question may sound dumb for that I am sorry.
What is the mobile Password, is it the same or at the initial prompt from Putty do I enter mobile to get to the mobile account?
Kind of confused can anyone point me to an explanation of su, root, mobile account?
Thanks

[thazsar]

Some time ago I must have changed the su password on my iphone. When I use Putty I get the prompt “login as” and I can enter root and enter my password and gain access. Is that the same as the su password? I really don’t know what su is so the question may sound dumb for that I am sorry.
What is the mobile Password, is it the same or at the initial prompt from Putty do I enter mobile to get to the mobile account?
Kind of confused can anyone point me to an explanation of su, root, mobile account?
Thanks

Try: alpine

[bsdaiwa]

tried but did not work.

[thazsar]

tried but did not work.

Go to /Applications/Terminal/ and see if you find a file that says 'old something-something).'. If u do, then make a backup copy of it then delete the original

Let me know

[bsdaiwa]

Go to /Applications/Terminal/ and see if you find a file that says 'old something-something).'. If u do, then make a backup copy of it then delete the original

Let me know

No Terminal in Applications folder.

Thanks for the help.

[iOS Modifier]

You need to download Mobile Terminal. Your Cydia Repo has it up for downloading for free (latest version for iOS 4+).

[thazsar]

BTW, I'm not sur if these are the answers ur looking for but:
Su - basically the username for ur device

Root - meaning '/' directory or Root directory

Mobile - could mean /var/mobile which is the Default directory on ur iDevice

[bsdaiwa]

Thanks, I can log in as root using Putty, is that the same as logging in as su? When I put su instead of root and try and use the same password it won't accept it. Also, installed Terminal but when I try and execute it, it just opens for a second then closes.

[thazsar]

Thanks, I can log in as root using Putty, is that the same as logging in as su? When I put su instead of root and try and use the same password it won't accept it. Also, installed Terminal but when I try and execute it, it just opens for a second then closes.

Don't worry about opening it. Just go to /Applications/Terminal and see if u can find that file I asked about

[bsdaiwa]

Looked in the folder /Applications/Terminal/ and there was no file that began or had old in it.

[thazsar]

Looked in the folder /Applications/Terminal/ and there was no file that began or had old in it.

K, I'll do some research...

[thazsar]

Delete the MobileTerminal u have

Google MobileTerminal ios4 to find out what repo to get it from

Then follow these instructions :
http://www.hackint0sh.org/f127/79608.htm

[iOS Modifier]

You are probably looking in the wrong Applications folder. Look in /var/stash/Applications - not the Applications with your App Store apps.

[metaserph]

su means "super user", same as root. Default passwords for root is "alpine" and for mobile is "alpine". If you changed root, that does not change mobile, which should still be "alpine". Follow the instructions on Cydia regarding the changing of passwords. Basically:
Get your jailbroken iPhone and open MobileTerminal (If you don’t have it already, get it from Cydia)
In MobileTerminal, type in: su root
It’ll ask you for a password, type in: alpine
To make the screen a bit cleaner, type in: cd
Now, to change your password, type in: passwd
Enter the password you desire (You will not see the characters in the screen as you type them for security reasons)
Enter the password you entered once more
You’re essentially done, if you want to change the password for the mobile space on the iPhone, continue reading… If not, close MobileTerminal and pat yourself on the back.
If you’re going to change the password for the Mobile user, type in: passwd mobile
Enter the password you desire (You will not see the characters in the screen as you type them for security reasons)
Enter the password you entered once more
All done! You are now secure! You may close MobileTerminal.

[A3gOwner]

su means "super user", same as root. Default passwords for root is "alpine" and for mobile is "alpine". If you changed root, that does not change mobile, which should still be "alpine". Follow the instructions on Cydia regarding the changing of passwords. Basically:
Get your jailbroken iPhone and open MobileTerminal (If you don’t have it already, get it from Cydia)
In MobileTerminal, type in: su root
It’ll ask you for a password, type in: alpine
To make the screen a bit cleaner, type in: cd
Now, to change your password, type in: passwd
Enter the password you desire (You will not see the characters in the screen as you type them for security reasons)
Enter the password you entered once more
You’re essentially done, if you want to change the password for the mobile space on the iPhone, continue reading… If not, close MobileTerminal and pat yourself on the back.
If you’re going to change the password for the Mobile user, type in: passwd mobile
Enter the password you desire (You will not see the characters in the screen as you type them for security reasons)
Enter the password you entered once more
All done! You are now secure! You may close MobileTerminal.

Close but not quite. Su is switch user not super user. Su defaults to root (user) if no user name is specified. Also "su -" will get you root aswell. Su is a program/script to switch users in a shell environment hence the usage: su root, su mobile. Su --help in the terminal will explain more. Root is system "master/admin/owner" highest power user on a *nix system.

[bsdaiwa]

Close but not quite. Su is switch user not super user. Su defaults to root (user) if no user name is specified. Also "su -" will get you root aswell. Su is a program/script to switch users in a shell environment hence the usage: su root, su mobile. Su --help in the terminal will explain more. Root is system "master/admin/owner" highest power user on a *nix system.

So when I can login as "root" that is the highest power. If that is correct, then I have the answer I need because I can login as "root" so we can end this with my thanks to all who have helped.

[thazsar]

Close but not quite. Su is switch user not super user. Su defaults to root (user) if no user name is specified. Also "su -" will get you root aswell. Su is a program/script to switch users in a shell environment hence the usage: su root, su mobile. Su --help in the terminal will explain more. Root is system "master/admin/owner" highest power user on a *nix system.

Nice info! I didn't know all if that (but also wasn't sure what he/she was asking about). Thanx A3gOwner!

[really.old.iphone]

su is a command and root is a user. If you are logged in as mobile you would use su to change to root. You cannot login as a command or execute a user. [HAHAHAH I guess you can...]

[A3gOwner]

So when I can login as "root" that is the highest power. If that is correct, then I have the answer I need because I can login as "root" so we can end this with my thanks to all who have helped.

Yes root is the "highest power" user on a Linux/unix based operating system. iOS is unix based just so you know. Also in a *nix environment the directory "/" is refered to as the root of the file system. That causes a little confusion at first but it's easy to understand.