uninstalling cydia

[iBlunt]

how exactly do I go about doing that? I tried going to uninstall in the other installer but where it should say "uninstall" for cydia it says "reinstall". Help please. I really dont have a need for cydia and will like to get rid of it

[brathamike]

yes i want the samething i don't need this junk cydia anymore and what kind of crap is that dosent allow us to uninstall a program..Thats free kin stupid

[Poseidon79]

Running both Cydia and Installer will not hurt anything. Cydia actually makes your phone run a little more stable due to the TRUE BSD sub-system it installs so I recommend keeping it. If you don't want it on your springboard just POOF it.

[tattoojack]

how do i make up for the 13mb it takes up? thats why i want to uninstall, guess a restore should do it!

[kcrmson]

13MB is roughly the equivalent of a 2-4 songs depending on your bitrate, is it really that big of a deal? Your phone will run better, if that's not a good thing I'm not sure what is.

[moppsy]

You can easily remove Cydia with apt.
login through ssh as root and run.

apt-get remove cydia

BTW Cydia is not 13MB, it uses 576KB of disk space.

[Mcabbas1]

uninstall it from cydia itself

[Eurisko]

BTW Cydia is not 13MB, it uses 576KB of disk space.

They're not referring to the Cydia program, but the entire Cydia package, which takes up quite a bit of root space.

[moppsy]

uninstall it from cydia itself

Remove one of its lower deps, like dpkg (Debian Packager), from within Cydia.
I'm not sure if it will actually succeed, but it should.

They're not referring to the Cydia program, but the entire Cydia package, which takes up quite a bit of root space.

The entire Cydia package is 576KB unexpanded.
The App bundle is 472KB.

What they refer to is the BSD subsystem packages.

And yes, it's taking up root space.
Space that is not eating into your Media and App storage.
It would just sit there empty anyway.

[tattoojack]

They're not referring to the Cydia program, but the entire Cydia package, which takes up quite a bit of root space.

thanks for gettin my back.

The entire Cydia package is 576KB unexpanded.
The App bundle is 472KB.

What they refer to is the BSD subsystem packages.

And yes, it's taking up root space.
Space that is not eating into your Media and App storage.
It would just sit there empty anyway.

if you ever look in the manage section in cydia, you will see a BUNCH of apps already installed with cydia.

cydia, plus the fake bsd, plus all these "core" apps= 13mb.

what, do you think i just made that number up in my head. i found it thru research with winscp and on here.

and since when do you know more than a mod with 2,731 posts under his belt?

[Eurisko]

The entire Cydia package is 576KB unexpanded.
The App bundle is 472KB.

What they refer to is the BSD subsystem packages.

And yes, it's taking up root space.
Space that is not eating into your Media and App storage.
It would just sit there empty anyway.

The BSD subsystem is installed with Cydia, and therefore is part of the Cydia package. Let's not play semantics here. And any third party Apps (not obtained through the Appstore) are not placed in the Media partition, they're placed in the Root partition along with the built-in Apps.

[moppsy]

thanks for gettin my back.



if you ever look in the manage section in cydia, you will see a BUNCH of apps already installed with cydia.

cydia, plus the fake bsd, plus all these "core" apps= 13mb.

what, do you think i just made that number up in my head. i found it thru research with winscp and on here.

and since when do you know more than a mod with 2,731 posts under his belt?

OK, what's the problem?
I stated the size of the Cydia package.
I noted that the space hog your referring to is made up of various packages including more than just the Cydia package.
I did not, nor do I disagree with you.
There is space being used, it's just not all Cydia.
If you could remove the Cydia package from Cydia, you would only gain back 576KB. 472KB from your media partition.
To free more space you need to remove more packages.
Like I replied to Mcabbas1, remove a lower dependancy to the Cydia package from within Cydia.

Since when does the number of posts mean anything other than the number of posts?

The BSD subsystem is installed with Cydia, and therefore is part of the Cydia package.

Sorry, but that's a fallacy.
A package is a single archive file.
When you bundle multiple packages together it's called a distribution.

Pwnage copies a distribution of packages, including the Cydia package, onto the ipsw you create.
Just because pwnage copies all these files at the same time doesn't make them all the same package.

Let's not play semantics here.

I don't think you understand what a package is.

Cydia displays packages.
Everything you look at when perusing the lists in Cydia is a package.

And any third party Apps (not obtained through the Appstore) are not placed in the Media partition, they're placed in the Root partition along with the built-in Apps.

Cydia relocates the application directory to the media partition.

Read it strait from saurik. Bringing Debian APT to the iPhone - Jay Freeman (saurik)
And have a look yourself:

Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/disk0s1          1.0G  494M  521M  49% /
devfs                  25K   25K     0 100% /dev
/dev/disk0s2          6.6G  3.3G  3.4G  50% /private/var

lrwxr-xr-x  1 root admin   30 Jul 30 22:07 Applications -> /var/stash/Applications.J4JJBf/
drwxrwxr-x  2 root admin   68 Jun 16 01:51 Developer/
drwxrwxr-x 14 root admin  680 Jul 30 22:07 Library/
drwxr-xr-x  3 root wheel  102 Jun 18 17:35 System/
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root admin   11 Jul 30 22:43 User -> /var/mobile/
drwxr-xr-x  2 root wheel 2040 Jul 30 20:21 bin/
drwxr-xr-x  2 root admin   68 Jul 28 14:09 boot/
drwxrwxr-t  2 root admin   68 Jun 16 00:54 cores/
dr-xr-xr-x  3 root wheel 1227 Jul 30 22:43 dev/
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root admin   11 Jun 25 23:37 etc -> private/etc/
drwxr-xr-x  2 root admin   68 Jul 28 14:09 lib/
drwxr-xr-x  2 root admin   68 Jul 28 14:09 mnt/
drwxr-xr-x  4 root wheel  136 Jul 30 20:16 private/
drwxr-xr-x  2 root wheel  884 Jul 30 20:21 sbin/
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root admin   15 Jun 25 23:37 tmp -> private/var/tmp/
drwxr-xr-x 11 root wheel  510 Jul 30 22:27 usr/
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root admin   11 Jun 25 23:37 var -> private/var/

In order to gain that space back for your media, you'll need to create a new ipsw with pwnage and make the root partition size smaller.

[Eurisko]

I don't think you understand what a package is.

Cydia displays packages.
Everything you look at when perusing the lists in Cydia is a package.

I don't think you know what semantics means. Playing with words to make a point, which is exactly what you're doing. When Pwnage installs Cydia, it does not install Cydia alone it also installs all of the programs required to make Cydia run. And that's what everyone, accept apparently you, are referring to. Whether you wish to call it a package or a distribuation, no one really cares. The result is the same.

[princemarko]

Cydia is bipolar. Some iPhones run great with it and others are slowed down to a crawl. Personally, it bogged down 3 iPhones i had it on and had to restore w/o it to get the iPhones to work properly.

[moppsy]

I don't think you know what semantics means.

I am fully aware of what semantics are.
I am also aware of how important they are to proper communication.

You can think I'm playing semantics all you want.
When it comes down to APT, a deb file is a package.
If they are in separate deb files, they are separate packages.
If you don't like that, go complain at debian.org and see how they rip you.

When Pwnage installs Cydia, it does not install Cydia alone it also installs all of the programs required to make Cydia run.

Not exactly, Cydia will run without many of those files.
Though it might not work correctly.

Oh!, look what I did there.
That's what I call, playing it full tilt.

And that's what everyone, accept apparently you, are referring to.

I am referring to exactly the same thing.
I am not calling it the same thing.
I am calling it what it actually is.
The Cydia package and the various packages that make up the BSD subsystem.

You seems stuck on the notion that it's all Cydia just because it's installed at the same time.

Whether you wish to call it a package or a distribution, no one really cares.

You mean, you don't care.
Whether you do or don't, doesn't matter.
They are what they are.

The result is the same

Nope.
Someone will read here that Cydia takes 13MB.
They look for how to remove Cydia and find "apt-get remove cydia".
Wonder why they didn't get 13MB back after removing Cydia.
All because you reject using the proper terminology.

If they read what I posted they will then know that it's not Cydia that takes 13MB.
Then they can find out how and what packages to remove from the BSD subsystem along with Cydia to get the desired amount of space back.
They will also find out that it will be for almost nothing without a new pwnage image.

Listen to you = confusion = angry.
Listen to me = understanding = happy.

So lets see.
I explained how to remove Cydia.
I clarified that removing Cydia wasn't enough.
I stated that it is other packages, specifically those that make up the BSD subsystem, using all the space.
I explained how you could remove most of those packages in one step.
I showed that most of the space you reclaim is going to give you nothing extra for your apps and media without more steps.

What do I get.

Ad hominem attacks and logic fallacies.

My contribution to this thread is done.

[Eurisko]

My contribution to this thread is done.

Thank god. You can step off your soap box now. At least people on the internet have no choice to listen to you huh? Must make you feel very important.

[tattoojack]

and out of all those posts, he still never explained how or what to remove the excess stuff, wether or not we get that space back without a restore.

i guess the only difference between alot of posts and a few, is the ability to read and answer properly without gettin all upset and acting like your point was made but you just look silly.

[Eurisko]

Too true. Does anyone have the steps to remove the Cydia "distribution"? (Did I get that right?)

[tattoojack]

Too true. Does anyone have the steps to remove the Cydia "distribution"? (Did I get that right?)

lmao.
i think a full restore is the best bet.

[rocksteady]

Can anyone spoon feed me on how to get my cydia icon back on my screen? I don't know what happened, it was there now it's gone.. thanks