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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Normally rolled with tobacco I'd say but not always. Was just the term that was most used here I would say.

    Smoke a spliff
    Smoke some herb
    Get red

    Ah the terms from my youth lol, never really my thing though. I was always the drinker of my crew, friends hit the chronic, I hit the rum
    I hear ya, I was speaking of the Spliff in a literal sense.

    Me, I was never a drinker really. Smoked the evil weed back in the school days then stopped for a while, got married, had a kid. Then I saw the LIGHT. Here in AZ and most western states it seems that everyone smokes weed.
    Started smoking every day when I had my first bout with cancer and never looked back. I am an advocate. I believe in it. And that the "war on weed" has done more harm, filled our prisons, ruined many lives and cost far more money then I care to think of.
    I am certain that soon it will be legal, Washington and Colorado are just the first to legalize. Alaska is next and most all states will follow easily in our lifetime.


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    I hear ya, don't understand all the negatives towards it either. So many positive uses for it just makes no sense why people still view it in a negative way, personally I think alcohol can be much worse on the body and can certainly impair somebody considerably more than marijuana.

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    ^amen brother.

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    One of my good friends. Has a daughter. That has epilepsy. She has seizures. There is a medicine that can be derived from a marihuana plant that can stop her seizures all together Right now they have her on a pile of meds He was explaining the benefits of the medical usage for the extractions of this plant. And I think that upset me more than the smoking part. She is 4 years old 4.

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    ^Yes sir, Cannabidiol (CBD) is widely used for that and so many other things too.
    I have an employee that is an Afghanistan war vet, a wonderful guy too, that struggles with PTSD. He is involved in a study at ASU that is using Medical Marijuana and he says he is so impressed with the relief he gets from it. So happy to be off the ton of drugs the VA gave him as he walked around in what he called "a drug coma" and was sure there had to be a better way. He wasn't a weed smoker before the study I might add.
    I will admit that I now smoke for the pure enjoyment of it, but it has gotten me through 2 very tough times in my life too. I'm a believer...

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    Well. If they used The Mary j treatment. People might actually save money Which in turn might put a few pharmaceutical companies out of business. And lord knows we do t want anyone losing money over people getting to feel better. Is what it always comes down to. Politics and money.

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    Once the tax benefits are realized, it will become legal coast to coast!

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    It is against the law in most places for a reason.

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    What's that reason Dummy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by King_O_Hill View Post
    What's that reason Dummy!
    Because the Fed gov't couldn't figure out how to regulate and tax it. Lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricB78 View Post
    Because the Fed gov't couldn't figure out how to regulate and tax it. Lmao
    Well, the state government is reaping the benefits for sure. Colorado has reported over a Million dollars in tax dollars earned since January 1 2014.
    20 other states which have approved Medical Marijuana sales also, more tax dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King_O_Hill View Post
    What's that reason Dummy!
    The deleterious effect on brain cells is a well documented and study proven downside to marijuana use. The "gateway drug" data is more sketchy but still a reason I'm glad it's illegal.. If there's even 1 chance in 10,000 that it was a gateway drug for a now addicted heroin user - I wouldn't want that early marijuana user to have been my kid... Jes' sayin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    The deleterious effect on brain cells is a well documented and study proven downside to marijuana use. The "gateway drug" data is more sketchy but still a reason I'm glad it's illegal.. If there's even 1 chance in 10,000 that it was a gateway drug for a now addicted heroin user - I wouldn't want that early marijuana user to have been my kid... Jes' sayin'
    Show me where it is well documented. I dare you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Show me where it is well documented. I dare you.
    Google is your friend, Simon.. .. Google Scholar should bring up various studies that prove the brain cell killing effect.. Or were you challenging me about the gateway drug aspect?
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    Nope, the brain cell thing. And google is YOUR friend Grant.
    Let me google that for you

    Click that link and tell me how many of those links are on your side of this. Can't blame you really, you are from the generation that perpetuated the negative stigma about marijuana, so much so that people like you just take what was said about it as fact without really looking in to the studies about it and how they were done. Read a few of those links that come up and you may start to see the truth. I did.

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    Why not campaign for legalizing cocaine and others as well? You people kill me with your pro drug bs. So you would let your teenage child lay around and get wasted because it is harmless? Go suck on a barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Dummy View Post
    Go suck on a barrel.
    Is this something you'd recommend more than marijuana ?
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    To each their own. Believe what you choose to believe. Facts are facts. I'm OK with people having their own opinion. I'm not trying to convince anyone, I was just stating what I feel is the real world truth.

    I know for a fact that it certainly helped me with chemo and stress. I have a State issued MJ card, grow my own and am happy that Arizona Voters were wise enough to change the laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Dummy View Post
    Why not campaign for legalizing cocaine and others as well? You people kill me with your pro drug bs. So you would let your teenage child lay around and get wasted because it is harmless? Go suck on a barrel.
    I hear marijuana can help with anger management. May want to look into that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Nope, the brain cell thing. And google is YOUR friend Grant.
    Let me google that for you

    Click that link and tell me how many of those links are on your side of this. Can't blame you really, you are from the generation that perpetuated the negative stigma about marijuana, so much so that people like you just take what was said about it as fact without really looking in to the studies about it and how they were done. Read a few of those links that come up and you may start to see the truth. I did.
    There's such a misinformation campaign on the druggies side of this debate - so much junk science that it becomes and endless cycle of people who 'want it legalized' believing whatever they read. Just look at the financial backing of several of the sites that claim 'no damage' in that Google list you linked - it will tell you the all you need to know about whether to believe said article or not.

    That's why I said 'Google Scholar'.. which is a gateway to only medical and scientific studies from institutions - and though those studies can also be 'back by someone's money' - there are few 'companies' with an 'interest' enough in this topic to 'buy' specific outcomes to a given study. Sadly - even the scientific community can be bought.. When you start to read some of the medical study conclusions from places like Stanford (I think was the most recent I read) and other places - trust me -- this is NO 'generational' concern. The 'pro-pot-head' group is very powerful and motivated to suppress the study data. But keep studying, my friend. You have to 'want to ignore' the data to actually have it not give you cause for concern - especially as a parent. I'll find you the study links when I get home from work...
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