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  1. #1521
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    Of coarse there would be no way to prove it, but I would be willing to bet that the majority of PS user have pirated copies.

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  3. #1522
    Quote Originally Posted by blkcadi View Post
    Of coarse there would be no way to prove it, but I would be willing to bet that the majority of PS user have pirated copies.
    My point exactly. A big elephant in the room - we never discuss around here.
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  5. #1523
    Hmmm interesting, sad cause I bet some cydia distributors make money off things they make with pirated software.
    No way of ever proving it but karma is a Big "B"
    I do assume a lot of us have legit copies though.
    These kind of situations will never be remedied.
    We just have to stay true n honest fit ourselves.
    It's the only thing that matters,
    Pirates will be thieves no matter what. It's as old a profession as the oldest if you know what I mean

    Who has an iPhone 3G or 4 but yet claims to own a legit copy of Adobe ps and the such .
    Things that make u go hmmmm

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  7. #1524
    That's why I don't have Photoshop nor Illustrator I ain't got the bucks for them.
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    Attachment 665740mine is legit and I pay 19.99 monthly. All apps all services.

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  11. #1526
    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    Yea.. Noone's getting full PS capabilities for $9/month from that new PS cloud thingie. No way. Sadly, my guess is, most modders who use full version PS aren't "owners" of PS. I hope I'm wrong..
    Why is this no way? Look it up! You actually get PS & Lightroom for $9.99

    How much did you pay for your copy?

    Quote Originally Posted by MamaJaay View Post
    mine is legit and I pay 19.99 monthly. All apps all services.
    No this is hard to swallow as this package costs $49.99

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  12. #1527
    Quote Originally Posted by King_O_Hill View Post
    Why is this no way? Look it up! You actually get PS & Lightroom for $9.99

    How much did you pay for your copy?



    No this is hard to swallow as this package costs $49.99
    Student discount.
    Attachment 665741
    As long as you have a .edu email, which I still have from when I was in college, you can get this price.

    EDIT: looks like the student discount now only takes the price to $29.99. Glad I got mine when I did.

    here is the promo page. They change all the time. and you can sometimes catch a good deal. PS and LightRoom is on sale currently for $9.99 monthly
    http://www.adobe.com/products/discou...upons.edu.html
    Last edited by MamaJaay; 04-17-2014 at 11:14 AM.

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    I figured you must have gotten in at a good time or something. $10/mon is really not bad!

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  16. #1529
    Quote Originally Posted by Alfroggy View Post
    That's why I don't have Photoshop nor Illustrator I ain't got the bucks for them.
    Quote Originally Posted by King_O_Hill View Post
    You actually get PS & Lightroom for $9.99
    I also don't have the machine for it. The only PC at home is my wife's iMac - plus its hard disc is full.
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  17. #1530
    I knew MJ would be legit - but hard to imagine "full" PS goes for $9.99. Never been so glad to be wrong -- and know I can finally afford it!!!

    So - MJ - the one on sale for 9.99 is full function?

    I have a .edu account.

    I don't own PS, King. But they have it in our dept at work. I occasionally get some time on it - like I did the other day to get my Coffee Diary icon set up to speed on canvas size.
    Last edited by NewdestinyX; 04-17-2014 at 12:55 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    I knew MJ would be legit - but hard to imagine "full" PS goes for $9.99. Never been so glad to be wrong -- and know I can finally afford it!!!

    So - MJ - the one on sale for 9.99 is full function?

    I have a .edu account.

    I don't own PS, King. But they have it in our dept at work. I occasionally get some time on it - like I did the other day to get my Coffee Diary icon set up to speed on canvas size.
    $9.99 is full function PS and lightroom if you sign up now. Requires 1 year commitment (same price whether you have .edu or not)

    $29.99 is going rate for ALL programs, AND cloud storage (if you have a .edu). requires 1 year commitment. (This is the one i got for $19.99 -- heck I pay half that for DropBox monthly already… that's really putting it into perspective.)

    $49.99 is rate for same package as above, but for those that do NOT have a .edu
    Last edited by MamaJaay; 04-17-2014 at 02:50 PM.

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    Yes it's true. If you are a student you can get PS and all the goodies for cheap. I still get emails for those other sections.
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  23. #1533
    Lol. Well. Getting ps is like auto committing to make everyone's icons. Lol.

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  25. #1534
    My thoughts are that if I'm gonna hack into my iPhone, then why not hack into PS? They gave me they free trial, I just extended it indefinitely. Is that really wrong?

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  27. #1535
    One is legal the other isn't. That was a poor example. As NewD said it is an ethical dilemma do we just play dumb and say everyone who makes something in ps owns their copy?
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  29. #1536
    Quote Originally Posted by GUNNY29 View Post
    One is legal the other isn't. That was a poor example. As NewD said it is an ethical dilemma do we just play dumb and say everyone who makes something in ps owns their copy?
    Never said I agreed with your premise fully, Gunny. The user of pirated PS is clearly being unethical. That's the easy one - cut & dried.

    But the transference of culpability to the user of a mod achieved with pirated PS is tricky for me. I'm trying to find direct analogies. But none are direct analogies. I tried "counterfeit $' - where the one who passes on the $ is still committing a crime even though they didn't know it was counterfeit. But that's not direct enough an analogy.

    Then I tried the people who buy unlocks when the IMEI blocks are illegally gotten by ATT employees stealing them.. And what about the resellers of unlocks like iDeviceGuys - are they being unethical?? But we've debated that one and gotten nowhere.. Still not a direct enough analogy to those of us who use mods...

    My early conclusion is that though using pirated software is against the law - using the creations FROM said software is not directly unethical..

    So as you see- I'm still going in circles..
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    What if this. Someone runs up in a garage and steals a set of tools. A few months later he works on someone else's car and charges them for it. The tools he used were stolen. But his work that he was paid for was still HiS labor Sure he is wrong for stealing. And in the end the world/karma will deal with him. As it normally does. But his labor and time applied is still his to give Or charge as he seems fit. Or someone is willing to pay.

    That might be the best analogy I can come up with off the top of my head

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    Theft is theft, bottom line. No justifications, no excuses. It is what it is.

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  35. #1539
    Quote Originally Posted by blkcadi View Post
    Theft is theft, bottom line. No justifications, no excuses. It is what it is.
    Yeah, Bo, that's the easy part. Everyone agrees that the pirate who mods with stolen PS is a tool.

    But what about those of us who use theme mods created with a theme creator's stolen PhotoShop? Are we being unethical? That's the question on the table....
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    Do we really want to carry on with this? LOL This is a jailbreak community that uses hacked software to jailbreak/hack our iPhones. Hacking is seen as a unethical or even unlawful act. Just saying! LOL

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