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Originally Posted by MamaJaay I'm probably gonna regret this post, but y'all have to remember that Bacardi has only been around since iOS 6. Redline was originally released (I believe)...
04-11-2014, 10:04 AM #1461
04-11-2014, 10:15 AM #1462
I'm not taking sides. I see both sides.
Bacardi's posts do sometimes rub people the wrong way, and come off cocky, but his intentions when it comes to the art itself are always genuine and in the spirit of sharing.
Schnedi's post are almost always well mannered, but his "art" is usually acquired and shared in the spirit of thievery or "I have to be first".
Which is worse? I don't know. I think I'd like to say that at least Bacardi's posts in and of themselves are not hurting anyone, where as Schnedi's M.O. has hurt many.
things to ponder.
04-11-2014, 10:25 AM #1463
This is nuts. Yes their iconomatics are similar. But in my opinion the more the better. For example I don't like Bacardi's because of the shape but like Schnedi's because of the shape of his icono. Bacardi whines continuously and apparently we just have to accept this. He will continue to whine. When this is over he will find another reason soon and he won't be wrong in that situation either because he is a legend in his own mind.
... And I love how Bacardi says schnedi has a "small" following. Plenty of people follow him..
.... Sinful iphone: some people start there as I did. I had no clue what kind of site it was. When I left to come here I still really had no clue what went on.
Last edited by GRODER; 04-11-2014 at 10:30 AM.
04-11-2014, 10:35 AM #1464
how many times you've seen Schnedi support the other creators work like MJ, and many other, i never seen him even post something like
this is awesome.. very nice work, keep it up.. this is important in this community
you only support the people you like, this is nothing to do with the work they create, this is nothing to do with the iconomatic.. is more rounded, more sqaure and blah blah blah i can see that in you
try to find something else
04-11-2014, 10:41 AM #1465
But the lit dot at the bottom of an icon has been borrowed by many theme creators after RedLine. Who knows where Bacardi saw a glimpse of it -- or didn't. Suffice it to say the 'idea' - is not an original one. If it just 'came to Romy' in his head - would mean 'great modding minds think alike'.. More likely -- is he's seen it somewhere before.. We who right music for national artists - always have to be careful that our 'original lyrics' and melodies have been 'informed' by songs we've liked in the past. Very tricky stuff. We THINK we came up with the idea.. but it's really there from some memory of the idea from another song..
But this isn't the first time 'borrowing/sharing ideas' with no credit given - has become the subject of debate here at MMi. Won't be the last. If I were a modder - I'd always say 'credit to creator' just to protect myself..
Last edited by NewdestinyX; 04-11-2014 at 10:44 AM.Here to help if I can. If I can't I know someone who can!
04-11-2014, 10:51 AM #1466
"Credit to creator" is worse because you don't even know who to give credit..
always good to mention the person in the post, my idea for the dot, i used my imagination to create that, i didn't see it or take it from anyhere, was a idea that i could give a option with many colors to people for there own SB like, this is the reason why i did the clock/newsstand/bitesms/calendar + plist
to get less request and less questions from people
last time Schnedi said on his post.. "the reason why i don't add clock/newsstand &bitesms on his iconomatic" was just big excuse, because before him all my iconomatic was included everything
even the noobs was able to put the overlay on it
if his a good modder or create why he said that? don't get it
04-11-2014, 10:54 AM #1467
.. It's not rocket science. I like a more squared style icon. Every icon and iconomatic I use looks this way. Which is why I didn't use yours but liked schnedis when it came out.
Last edited by GRODER; 04-11-2014 at 10:57 AM.
04-11-2014, 10:56 AM #1468
every morning you wake up he will go take a wallpaper for your taste from the neighbour and SB icons from to store to make you a nice breakfast
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04-11-2014, 11:06 AM #1469
04-11-2014, 11:08 AM #1470
04-11-2014, 11:50 AM #1471
Ok. You are all wrong. Lol. The little dot. Originally came. From twilight hd. That was a line. Big theme from iOS 4 made by k initsua and zausser/Steve
When Steve went to make redline. They liked the bottom effect on an icon. And decided to turn it into a dot rather tha. A line so they didn't feel like they were stealing.
The Ezra notch was formed by none other than K initsua and jimmyLe I think subywrex had a hand in it as well.
And for schnedi. Well. He has changed his ways a lot from years ago. He used to directly rip peoples work and never give credit. And then go share that work at sinful and other pirate sites Even got banned here once because of it. King of hill knows what I'm talking about.
This is just how some people are Bacardi. I appreciate you for your honesty and originality. But you have to tone it down a little bro. You know imitation is the highest form of flattery. And maybe he did it to mess with you who knows. Not worth the fuss tho. Keep
Doing you and keep your head high Can't change some peoples beliefs for things they do not know or understand.
You have to strive to hold yourself in a more respectable manner in order for people to respect you. And sometimes that means turning the other cheek cause some fights just are not worth it.
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04-11-2014, 11:51 AM #1472
04-11-2014, 11:58 AM #1473
i would left this forum if i wasn't strong mentaly, You and Heine are both was always supporting since e6
can't thank you enough brothers
i know he did in purpose, i wouldn't say much if he where doing different colors or maybe 2-3 colors
i did 7 and he also did 7, not sure this will be a coincidence lmaop
anyway bro, thanks for passing by.. have a great day
"it's because idiots like bacardi85 think he is being helpful by answering all the questions, when in fact he just making people lazy and make it easier for people to not read"
i laugh at your ridiculous sentence for 2 days and was a very s*itty attitude coming from you
Last edited by Bacardi85; 04-11-2014 at 12:09 PM.
04-11-2014, 12:15 PM #1474
Schnedi is member of that Sinful forum. So I am. No need to be a pirate to benefit from knowledge shared there.
Perhaps hasn't this been the case from the start, but in this particular instance, the original coder is credited, and Jona just wants his part accounted for too, which is deserved IMO. And taking the defence of the underage forum users, well, in this particular MF-word case, it's ridiculous. Not worth bashing anyone for, unless you're a moderator, Romy. But you can always report posts (that wall shared by Schnedi you censored in your softer version you shared) you deem offending. I'd consider that futile in the 'MF' instance. But opinions, you know, can differ greatly, no need to debate on that. I trust mods to have enough insight.
Oh, and one thing regarding image upload :
My point of view in this regard has evolved with time.
At first, I didn't mind them leading to external links, and I have resorted to this method myself to boost my number of icon downloads on Jakurepo.com, as I considered them a reward of my efforts in drawing the icons and giving me a purpose for sharing them
Icons I'd post would thus link to their download off Jakurepo, and be accounts taken in account in my number of downloads, which I checked periodically – a bit like you count thanks on posts
I've stopped that practice. And haven't drawn icons lately, mainly, lololool*
Regarding image hosting, you've read some of my posts guiding towards 'better' use of hosting sites, but, what's true to mobile users (I'm all mobile) can become the opposite for those using desktop Mmi : they might prefer attachments in-app, with freedom to click external links or not, to scrutinise images posted. See, different users = different experiences : high res images hinder their browsing experience. Well, I know you also preach editing out images in quoted posts, but, that's half of the satellite. The moon always will have another side. Its other side isn't dark all the while
Oh, and Dropbox image links keep original resolution throughout reposts, and might prevent your urge to shout your despair on seeing the crime (to your eyes) of quality-lessened work of yours (and others) being posted.
But c'm'on, Romy : in your case (mine too) you don't ask for donations nor sell your stuff, so who cares if the inspiration was drawn from you ? Except you I mean, you do care, and this is something natural. Human. But instead of making this knowledge (or instinct rather) turn you down, creativity-wise or emotionally, why not let it rejoice you, and just feel proud of ? Would that be elite ?
*I'm no language purist, but it does bother me a bit. It's like it kills my brain slowly, a neurone at a time perhaps, reading this extended, distorted LOLs**
**I'm no purist.
04-11-2014, 12:21 PM #1475
04-11-2014, 12:22 PM #1476
Geeze Alfroggy, this has to be the longest post I have ever seen from you. Well done sir.
04-11-2014, 12:23 PM #1477
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04-11-2014, 12:27 PM #1478
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04-11-2014, 12:33 PM #1480
Great new topic MJ. Let's start with u. Your thoughts on the new topic that's on the table.