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Originally Posted by King_O_Hill So what you do is before making changes you open BB and save your current layout with a new name. Then you can make your changes
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    Quote Originally Posted by King_O_Hill View Post
    So what you do is before making changes you open BB and save your current layout with a new name. Then you can make your changes and reopen BB to update your new layout. You now have 2 saves of the layout with whatever minor changes that you made.
    Naw.. This functionality in software circles (as you would know) is called a "destructive edit". Andrew is setting himself up for a bazillion Cydia emails for problems leaving the implementation this way. I emailed him this afternoon. I don't do Twitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    Naw.. This functionality in software circles (as you would know) is called a "destructive edit". Andrew is setting himself up for a bazillion Cydia emails for problems leaving the implementation this way. I emailed him this afternoon. I don't do Twitter.
    So I guess that you asked for a way to turn the auto save feature off and that would in turn need a manual save method.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King_O_Hill View Post
    So I guess that you asked for a way to turn the auto save feature off and that would in turn need a manual save method.
    Actually I was a good and respectful boy in my email. I simply offered my observation of the functionality and asked if it was his intent to have an auto save feature.. and expressed that people might be emailing him a lot thinking it was a problem rather than a feature.

    I wasn't my normal pushy self.. Lol!! And didn't call him "infamous" again..

    I actually would be totally ok with it working as Krima originally told me that HE thought it worked.. where upon launch of the app you have to RE TAP the backup set to do the update. Or the moment you launch the app a question dialogue should appear saying "Save current changes to xxxxxxxxx ?" - where xxxx is the name of the setup on the home screen now.

    You can answer no at that point allowing you to click on Create a New..

    What do you think of that step, Brian? Would that be good? If so I'll email him with the idea. This way he can keep the general flow of the auto save concept but give a refusal to save step - rather than a whole Save button.

    Whatcha think?
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    What don't I understand Grant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krima View Post
    What don't I understand Grant?
    Sorry, bro.. I should have said.. "How you explained it to me".. OR -- how "I understood you to say it worked"..

    I heard you to say - that to "update" a current saved back up in BB you had to launch app and THEN CLIK ON that saved backup to "update it" with whatever changes you've made recently.

    What the app actually does is that UPON LAUNCH of the app BB IMMEDIATELY saves any changes to last backup. A destructive edit of sorts. This leaves you no opportunity to hit "Create a New" and requires you to, in a sense create a dummy new backup after every save to make sure you don't accidentally save over an older backup set when you're just experimenting.

    Maybe that's what you tried to tell me. But that functionality "save upon open of app" will get Andrew a lot of frustrated emails from Cydia.. .. And I have confirmed it works as I just described. Immediately upon open any changes made since last backup are auto saved OVER last backup without any additional taps.
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    I like the popup asking to either overwrite or to save as new.
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    The new BackBoard also doesn't remember ColorKeyboard setups.
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    Is there a way to get the new version of backboard??

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    Quote Originally Posted by nealh View Post
    Is there a way to get the new version of backboard??
    Request access to the beta team.

    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    The new BackBoard also doesn't remember ColorKeyboard setups.
    Did you let Andrew know?
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    Did you let Andrew know?
    Emailing now. BB Legacy 3 "did" remember cK settings. Interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    The new BackBoard also doesn't remember ColorKeyboard setups.
    It must be something on your end Grant because it remembers fine every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
    Im already on beta team or I wouldn't have BB.
    King wasn't referring to you with that quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krima View Post
    It must be something on your end Grant because it remembers fine every time.
    Hmm. This time I did the test twice, Krima. I added Coffee Diary to my setups.. changed to a Coffee CK.. Opened BB -- which autosaved the new setup.. Then I launched a different backup set in BB to bring back an Elite 6 setup which has a different CK I use and stored with the Elite 6 set. And the Coffee CK was still in operation after the respring.. What could I have done incorrectly?

    EDITED.... well okay.. BB "IS" remembering the correct setting in CK.. I just verified that from inside the CK app. But the newly chosen CK (after a BB backup set change) is NOT activating in any typing window - UNTIL I go into CK and hit REFRESH THEMES which brings on another respring from within CK. THEN the saved CK setup in the BB backup appears. But not immediately after the BB resrping after choosing a different setup.. Very weird behavior. I removed and reinstalled CK too - to see if that was it. I also did same test on my 4S.. SAME issue. My 4S has minimal tweaks.. So I know this is not just a 'Grant thing' - this time Krima.
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    I don't mean to say its a "Grant" thing, what I mean is the tweak is working properly so it must be something on your end regarding your phone. I have 8 setups so far with a lot of different settings and I don't have to refresh my keyboard.

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    Grant, reinstall CK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King_O_Hill View Post
    Request access to the beta team.
    This may seem stupid but who do I contact? TIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krima View Post
    I don't mean to say its a "Grant" thing, what I mean is the tweak is working properly so it must be something on your end regarding your phone. I have 8 setups so far with a lot of different settings and I don't have to refresh my keyboard.
    Hmm. On two different phones I own - with different tweaks, Krima.. It's the same problem.. That seems like an impossible coincidence.. don't you think? As I said last post.. I can go into CK and see that the CK check mark has changed - but the new CK doesn't show in apps or on Spotlight page without a hit of the Refresh Themes button in CK which launches CK's respring.

    Quote Originally Posted by King_O_Hill View Post
    Grant, reinstall CK.
    Did twice.. No change. ...

    And BytaFont fonts aren't remembered at all.. Can you test that, Krima?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nealh View Post
    This may seem stupid but who do I contact? TIA
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    @Grant. I don't know why u have the problem with ColorKeyboard but my fonts don't change either but that's to be expected. If I remember correctly they didn't change ever with the previous backboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krima View Post
    @Grant. I don't know why u have the problem with ColorKeyboard but my fonts don't change either but that's to be expected. If I remember correctly they didn't change ever with the previous backboard.
    BytaFont fonts were saved with BackBoard Legacy, Krima.

    I'll ask Andrew why this is different and report my bug with CK on 2 different phones. It'll be interesting to see what tweaks could be conflicting on "2" of my phones... !! Weird.. Thanks for providing a controlled experiment with yours working fine..
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