[SPOILERS] Inception thread [SPOILERS]

**NinetyFour** · 07-25-2010, 03:20 PM

This is a discussion thread for Inception. Along with many others, I was baffled by this film. I thought it was incredible.

Now, concerning the very last scene, do you guys think its a dream or reality? Some may say that it is a dream, because the children appear the same age at the end as they are in his memories. But, IMDb came to my rescue:

Claire Geare ... Phillipa (3 years)
Magnus Nolan ... James (20 months)

Taylor Geare ... Phillipa (5 years)
Johnathan Geare ... James (3 years)

2 different sets of kids were used to play the part of young Phillipa and James, and older Phillipa and James. This is the detail that sold it for me. The end scene was reality.

Post your own theories and questions about this great film.

**Zeal** · 07-25-2010, 03:55 PM

Confusing *** movie wtffffffffffff.

I didnt like it

**Cowboy** · 07-25-2010, 05:34 PM

I personally think he is dreaming still in limbo and cant get out. He just keeps replaying what is happening! Either way you look at it sick movie

**whereswaldo** · 07-25-2010, 06:34 PM

I think it was real, it looked like the top was going to fall.
P.S. Is that Miranda Kerr who plays his wife?

**NinetyFour** · 07-25-2010, 10:25 PM

I thought it was an excellent movie. But what I don't get is why did they go to the Snow Fortress? What was the point of that?

**Aliquippakid** · 07-25-2010, 10:51 PM

Movie was pretty awesome

**Wilbourn** · 07-25-2010, 10:57 PM

it was reality because they woke up on the airplane where they had originally went into the dream's....

**Happy Noodle Boy** · 07-26-2010, 05:35 AM

The movie isn't about proving your theory, it's about incepting doubt into it. Both sides have arguments for and against it, in the end it's all about what you take from the film.

Personally, I'm in the he was in reality camp.

**Taniban** · 07-26-2010, 08:18 AM

Yeah I think reality also. Sometimes people read too much into films and get even more confused so I will just keep things simple and go for team reality.

**moon#pie** · 07-26-2010, 08:26 AM

It was reality. I thought that it was funny that his wife was named "Mal", which in Spanish means "bad".

**NinetyFour** · 07-26-2010, 01:00 PM

It also means bad in French.

**SharpieBandit** · 07-26-2010, 05:27 PM

I totally called what was going to happen at the end right before it happened. I halfway whispered "Dude, I bet the screen just cuts out." right before it went black.

**dale1v** · 07-27-2010, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by Tiger92

It was reality. I thought that it was funny that his wife was named "Mal", which in Spanish means "bad".

Originally Posted by NinetyFour

It also means bad in French.

It's also short for Malorie

**whereswaldo** · 07-27-2010, 08:34 AM

^or maybe it actually is bad, and that's why he got her killed

**dale1v** · 07-27-2010, 06:01 PM

Hmmm...

I N C E P T I O N

**mortopher** · 07-27-2010, 08:20 PM

The entire movie took place inside of Dom's mind. It was a dream the entire time with the objective of clearing his mind of the guilt of causing his wife's death.

Now, could someone explain to me what the "rules" of limbo were? As I understood it you were stuck there until you came to yet everyone that they showed in limbo was able to leave when they died. What part am I not grasping?

**NinetyFour** · 07-27-2010, 08:40 PM

To escape Limbo, you must die. Now, you may ask, then why didn't they just kill themselves in Limbo right away? Well if you enter Limbo, you don't know that you are in Limbo. That's why you must first realize you are Limbo before you can escape. This means that at the last scene, when Cobb washes up on the beach, he has no idea he's in Limbo, and neither does Saito. But, when Saito sees Cobb's top, he remembers everything, and soon Cobb remembers everything when Saito says "Leap of faith" and when they exchange trigger-key-phrases like "Old man full of regret.... waiting to die alone." Once they realized, they killed themselves with Cobb's gun.

So, in essence, you could be in Limbo right now, but you wouldn't be able to escape until you accept fully and you know for a fact that you're in Limbo. Then you would have to kill yourself. That is why it is so difficult to escape Limbo. You have to be ABSOLUTELY sure that you're in Limbo and 100% dedicated to kill yourself. That is why Limbo is so hard to escape.

That's my take on the whole Limbo thing.

**SharpieBandit** · 07-27-2010, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by NinetyFour

To escape Limbo, you must die. Now, you may ask, then why didn't they just kill themselves in Limbo right away? Well if you enter Limbo, you don't know that you are in Limbo. That's why you must first realize you are Limbo before you can escape. This means that at the last scene, when Cobb washes up on the beach, he has no idea he's in Limbo, and neither does Saito. But, when Saito sees Cobb's top, he remembers everything, and soon Cobb remembers everything when Saito says "Leap of faith" and when they exchange trigger-key-phrases like "Old man full of regret.... waiting to die alone." Once they realized, they killed themselves with Cobb's gun.

So, in essence, you could be in Limbo right now, but you wouldn't be able to escape until you accept fully and you know for a fact that you're in Limbo. Then you would have to kill yourself. That is why it is so difficult to escape Limbo. You have to be ABSOLUTELY sure that you're in Limbo and 100% dedicated to kill yourself. That is why Limbo is so hard to escape.

That's my take on the whole Limbo thing.

This. Thank you for putting that together. I'm much to tired to have explained it that well.

**mortopher** · 07-27-2010, 09:09 PM

Then how was Ellen Paige's character so aware they were in limbo?

**NinetyFour** · 07-27-2010, 11:51 PM

Quoted from cinemablend

If the world with crumbling buildings is Cobb’s limbo, what is the place he ends up in with Saito?
A: Two different theories possible, let’s break them down one at a time:

Theory 1 The simplest answer here would be that this world isn’t actually limbo but a deeper level which perhaps Cobb has mistaken for limbo or misrepresented as limbo. You have to die to go to limbo and neither Cobb nor Ariadne dies in the ice fortress, they merely go to sleep again and enter Cobb's dream, which only resembles the world he and Mal built in limbo because Cobb has created it. (Their kids weren't with them in their original limbo, so if this were limbo again, why would they magically be there with them to live happily ever after?) Also, Cobb could have deliberately been planning how the whole level worked out - he used it to detach himself from Mal, create a projection of Fischer to compel Ariadne to get out and not go into limbo and stayed as the whole thing crumbled to get to the real limbo to help Saito. And maybe that's the reason Fischer can be revived. He wasn't really shot dead.

Theory 2 But since Ariadne tried to kill herself to escape it, and we know that killing yourself in any level but limbo will only send you to limbo, it seems as though Ariadne must have believed she was in limbo. If the crumbling city level really is a form of limbo, could that mean both Cobb and Saito in limbo, but in different limbos? If dreams are the machinations of the subconscious, and limbo is the subconscious that Cobb has built, the locations are one in the same. It’s the same reason why Cobb can no longer work as an architect. Perhaps Cobb and Saito’s final locations are the same place. If so, how does Cobb find Saito’s fortress? How does he end up on that beach? We’re full of questions on this one, but given the context of the movie this theory seems like the most likely of the two.

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