[ALL DAY]

This probably won't make me very popular, but I have to say, I'm not a huge racist or anything, but I do NOT feel comfortable with a Muslim running our country.

The terrorist plot for the many decades has been to slowly and quietly integrate their people into the U.S., such as the 9/11 hijackers who lived among us for almost a year undetected, and then eventually attack. Why wouldn't they go for it all and start at the highest level of the U.S.? (Far-fetched, I know, just thoughts. Again, sorry if this offends anyone.)

Also, I'm not a fan of Obama's beliefs in general, and his lackluster attitude towards the country's beliefs.

[jealous soul]

i'm glad everyone on this forum is so well versed in politics. i'm not sure any of you even realize what 'principles' our country was founded upon.

Originally Posted by ALL DAY

This probably won't make me very popular, but I have to say, I'm not a huge racist or anything, but I do NOT feel comfortable with a Muslim running our country.

The terrorist plot for the many decades has been to slowly and quietly integrate their people into the U.S., such as the 9/11 hijackers who lived among us for almost a year undetected, and then eventually attack. Why wouldn't they go for it all and start at the highest level of the U.S.? (Far-fetched, I know, just thoughts. Again, sorry if this offends anyone.)

Also, I'm not a fan of Obama's beliefs in general, and his lackluster attitude towards the country's beliefs.

as i just mentioned, the idiocy on this forum runs rampant. do you ACTUALLY think he's a muslim? how out of touch are you with what is going on in our country?

[ALL DAY]

I do not believe he is fully Muslim, but I know he has many Muslim connections in his church and through his father. I was simply stating a theory many believe and are curious about.

I also stated how I believe that his views and attitudes are not consistent with my own.

Sorry, but idiocy does NOT run rampant on these forums. This is a mature discussion on one of the United States' presidential candidates. If you don't like the things I said, debate with me respectably. Name calling is for twelve year olds; grow up.

Also, if MMi is filled with morons and idiots, as you seem to believe, why are you here? Feel free to have a mature discussion or, as the kids on the internet say, "GTFO".

[Apple iPie]

Guys,its not politics forum. Its iPhone forum. Whats the main point of this thread? Calling MMI people morrons?

Also, if MMi is filled with morons and idiots, as you seem to believe, why are you here? Feel free to have a mature discussion or, as the kids on the internet say, "GTFO".

[jealous soul]

Originally Posted by ALL DAY

I do not believe he is fully Muslim, but I know he has many Muslim connections in his church and through his father. I was simply stating a theory many believe and are curious about.

I also stated how I believe that his views and attitudes are not consistent with my own.

Sorry, but idiocy does NOT run rampant on these forums. This is a mature discussion on one of the United States' presidential candidates. If you don't like the things I said, debate with me respectably. Name calling is for twelve year olds; grow up.

Also, if MMi is filled with morons and idiots, as you seem to believe, why are you here? Feel free to have a mature discussion or, as the kids on the internet say, "GTFO".

you can't be 'partially muslim.' do you understand the fundamental differences between christianity and islam? they are in fact at odds with each other, so even though he may have acquaintances or associates that are muslim, you must realize he does not subscribe to the principles of islam. that theory is simply fear mongering meant to stir up hatred against him. you do realize that his church is not an islamic mosque but in fact a christian church?

[ALL DAY]

The main point of this thread is a discussion on politics, or so I thought. I'm not sure why my bro, jealous soul, attacked MMi like that...

What was you point, iPie?

EDIT: Never did I say he was "partially" Muslim; I said he had Muslim connections. Why yes, I do actually understand the fundamental differences between Islam and Chiristianity. Thanks for asking. Again, I was simply stating a fact, nothing more, nothing less. Muslim connections, that's all. It obviously offended you, therefore I apologize.

Have a nice day.

[fekz]

The ignorance/closet racism in here reeks to high heaven. Seriously, educate yourself about the political process or stop posting.

Ambitious? Yeah, cause being the presumptive nominee as a minority isn't a feat, he must be a little ambitious to think he'll win come November.

Muslim? Seriously are you people even studying the **** you spew?

Can't believe there's still people out there who think watching cable news will keep you informed. Wow.

[jealous soul]

Originally Posted by ALL DAY

The main point of this thread is a discussion on politics, or so I thought. I'm not sure why my bro, jealous soul, attacked MMi like that...

What was you point, iPie?

EDIT: Never did I say he was "partially" Muslim; I said he had Muslim connections. Why yes, I do actually understand the fundamental differences between Islam and Chiristianity. Thanks for asking. Again, I was simply stating a fact, nothing more, nothing less. Muslim connections, that's all. It obviously offended you, therefore I apologize.

Have a nice day.

You said "I don't believe he is fully Muslim" which would imply that he is "partially Muslim." His lackluster attitude towards the "country's beliefs?" Could you please elaborate a little further?

So by your view of "Muslim connections," because I know a few people that are Muslim, does that mean I support terrorism?

[ALL DAY]

The political process? This has absolutely nothing to do with the political process.

Do you read? I'm not trying to be an ***, but I did not say he was Muslim. He HAS Muslim connections, it's undeniable. Do I think this is some master scheme of terrorism? No. Nor am I a racist, on another note. I simply do not think the country is ready for a Muslim leader, especially not one with the beliefs of Obama, who will not even face the flag during the national anthem; but that is another point in total.

EDIT: You got me, I can admit it, that "fully" was a bad choice of vocabulary. I meant he supposedly does not subscribe to Islamic beliefs, however I was indicating his connections. As for the country's beliefs, I'll throw out a broad one... The national anthem example again. "United" States. I'm sure you've heard the saying "united we stand, divided we fall." He should be supporting the country, not fighting against it.

I respect that he doesn't like something, OK, and he's out to do something about it. Turning away from America will accomplish nothing... Unity is key.

[Nicholas Knight]

I really dont see why everyone hates bush so much

[jealous soul]

Originally Posted by ALL DAY

The political process? This has absolutely nothing to do with the political process.

Do you read? I'm not trying to be an ***, but I did not say he was Muslim. He HAS Muslim connections, it's undeniable. Do I think this is some master scheme of terrorism? No. Nor am I a racist, on another note. I simply do not think the country is ready for a Muslim leader, especially not one with the beliefs of Obama, who will not even face the flag during the national anthem; but that is another point in total.

You keep saying Muslim leader....as if he is a Muslim....you need to realize that he is in fact not a Muslim so it nullifies your argument of "this country is not ready for a Muslim leader" (on that point I would agree with you, but Obama is NOT a Muslim).

[ALL DAY]

Okay, we're now having a mature disagreement, fantastic. Thank you for being so mature.

First of all, nickmc01, people dislike George W. Bush because of some of his decisions, and they need someone to blame for everything, in short.

Jealous- I believe that he was Muslim at one point, another "connection", if you will. His ties to the nation that is Islam are what I feel the nation is most likely not ready for. He downplays the fact that the Muslim religion was (or is) a part of his life, in one way or another, because I'm sure he knows as well as the next dude that the country isn't ready for a Muslim leader, to sum up that statement.

[jealous soul]

He was not Muslim at one point. Excuse me for actually quoting wikipedia, but the quote comes from Obama's book:

In The Audacity of Hope, Obama writes that he "was not raised in a religious household." He describes his mother, raised by non-religious parents, as detached from religion, yet "in many ways the most spiritually awakened person that I have ever known." He describes his Kenyan father as "raised a Muslim," but a "confirmed atheist" by the time his parents met, and his Indonesian stepfather as "a man who saw religion as not particularly useful." In the book, Obama explains how, through working with black churches as a community organizer while in his twenties, he came to understand "the power of the African-American religious tradition to spur social change."

I know I'm not going to convince you otherwise (or even to consider voting for him haha) but I would not worry about any ties to the nation of Islam.

My problem with McCain is that he can't stand firm on a policy, and he can't offer solid ideas to move the country forward. He was ready to desert the republicans just a few years ago to become Kerry's running mate. How quickly things like this are forgotten...He hardly seems like a candidate that can diplomatically deal with the world's and our nation's current problems with wars, economic polices, and social policies. I come from a military family (My father was a high ranking officer in the Air Force, I have been involved with the AF, I have numerous cousins/friends still in the Navy and Marines, and my Uncle is still serving in the Army). We have ALWAYS voted republican....but no one is going to this time around, they are actually supporting Obama.

Also, check out this snopes article: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

Note that it says he was never Muslim.

[my2AWDgst]

Like...yeah

[smirkis]

jealous soul, how many speaches have you sat thru to be this much under his spell of garbage.

travel across country regularly to sit thru his speaches? the man can talk, big deal. he knows what to say, to a country falling so hard, they'd believe anything. "change", him becoming president, would seriously big the biggest change in US history, and prolly the only thing he could change, if he became president.