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    Default ATT changes TOS. Does the iphone violate it?
    AT&T tweaks wireless terms of service to forbid video streaming, filesharing, data tethering

    does this give current customers a valid reason to cancel their contracts without the stupid fee?

    Does their new TOS make the youtube app forbidden? what about orb, slingbox or pandora?

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    somebody should make this front page news

    AT&T tweaks wireless terms of service to forbid video streaming, filesharing, data tethering

    by Nilay Patel, posted Apr 3rd 2009 at 12:24PM
    Looks like AT&T's taking some aggressive steps to manage network traffic now that it's offering subsidized netbooks -- the carrier updated its data plan terms of service last night to specifically single out and prohibit "downloading movies using P2P file sharing services, customer initiated redirection of television or other video or audio signals via any technology from a fixed location to a mobile device, web broadcasting, and... any applications that tether the device... to Personal Computers or other equipment." That's an impressively strict set of rules that seemingly bans a number of apps AT&T customers are already using without complaint -- everything from SlingPlayer to Qik to Skype to Jaikuspot -- so we'll see if the company is really so tone-deaf as to try and retroactively prohibit their use, or if it'll just ignore what it can't possibly enforce. We've pinged AT&T for comment, we'll let you know what they say.

    P.S.- It's not just AT&T struggling to keep up with how people actually use its network -- Deutsche Telekom today threatened to cut off German T-Mobile customers who dare to use Skype. Nice. Can someone give all these guys some new ideas, please?
    http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/2069
    By Robb Topolski on March 31, 2009 - 8:33pm

    Quietly, last night, AT&T revised its wireless plans. In the latest changes to the service terms, it looks like AT&T is trying to exempt its own video services but prohibiting services like the Slingbox or other video web sites. See, this change (changes emphasized):

    This means, by way of example only, that checking email, surfing the Internet, downloading legally acquired songs, and/or visiting corporate intranets is permitted, but downloading movies using P2P file sharing services, customer initiated redirection of television or other video or audio signals via any technology from a fixed location to a mobile device, web broadcasting, and/or for the operation of servers, telemetry devices and/or Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition devices is prohibited.

    The following language was also added to AT&T’s wireless TOS:

    On the 5GB DataConnect Plan, once you exceed your 5GB allowance you will be automatically charged $0.00048 per Kb for any data used. On the 200MB Data Connect Plan, once you exceed your 200MB allowance, you will be automatically charged $10 for an additional 100MB. Unused data from either your initial allowance or any overage allowance (e.g., the 100MB) will not be carried over to the next billing period; all data allowances must be used in the billing period in which the allowance is provided. On other plans with a monthly megabyte or gigabyte allowance, once you exceed your allowance you will be automatically charged overage as specified in the applicable rate plan information.

    (The remainder of the above paragraph was essentially pre-existing.)

    All of these changes probably have something to do with the recent $28,000 PR disaster covered at http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/02...ess-card-bill/ where a Chicago-based AT&T subscriber was charged international rates for viewing a football game over the service, generating a bill of $28,000. It should be noted that this was an error since the consumer was in Miami and not at sea, yet AT&T responds as if the billing was justified and now starts revising the TOS to prohibit the activity! (AT&T finally backed down once the newspaper’s consumer reporter injected the power of his pen into the dispute.)

    TOS language aside, it’s not very “Internet” when the ISP is picking and choosing what legal activities you may and may not do with your Internet connection.
    Last edited by Rescuer; 04-03-2009 at 01:39 PM.

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    Yeah, that would be a pretty good idea since this effets a majority of this website

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    When I was with nextel they changed something I forgot what but some people where able to cancel their contract no problem. Now is this new TOS for new users or everyone as we did not agree to that TOS?

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    thats a good question. I'm pretty sure that the contract says something about them being able to change the TOS at any time.

    With that said, if they plan on dropping people for not playing by their rules, you can probably just tether your phone to your laptop daily (don't go over the 5gb cap), sharing LEGAL torrents, until they decide to cancel you and get out of the termination fee. As much as I like my iphone, I wouldn't hesitate to cancel if they're going to enforce this BS.

    I'm surprised Apple hasn't stepped in since ATT is, to an extent, messing with their bread and butter.

    edit:well, score for the consumer

    AT&T retracts new terms of service, apologizes
    Last edited by dr.stevil; 04-04-2009 at 07:48 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    bullet dodged lol

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