[reef150]

Interesting - just checked the Apple on-line store... seems the new Composite & Component cables (with dock connector) are available for the Touch, but only the Component cable is shown as available for the iPhone.... ????

Then again, on the component cable detail page the iPhone is not listed either - so perhaps its just sloppy maintenance of the product content pages.....

[jedinight]

Originally Posted by reef150

Interesting - just checked the Apple on-line store... seems the new Composite & Component cables (with dock connector) are available for the Touch, but only the Component cable is shown as available for the iPhone.... ????

Then again, on the component cable detail page the iPhone is not listed either - so perhaps its just sloppy maintenance of the product content pages.....

yeah .same here give them a week they will have it sorted out...

[CrossBow]

The extra contacts (rings) on the 3.5mm round connector are used for the Mic, and the Answer button. They are thus unavailable for composite video out. AFAIK, they do not switch. The iPhone's hardware makes it impossible to output composite video on the 3.5mm round connector, even though some other iPods (That do not need mic's) can.

AFAIK, video is only available on the bottom (iPod) connector.

I have a 3rd party iPod dock that is supposed to support video, but given the other current issues, I cannot upgrade to 1.1.1 to test it.

[reef150]

Correct - video is only on the dock connector - the 3.5mm connector I was refering to is on the DICE Video Cradle (car cradle) - which has both a dock connector (to go to the iPod control / radio interface box) and the 3.5mm jack for the composite audio & audio output. Obviously this was intended for the "old" iPods, but I would hope that IF composite video is still on the iPhone / Touch, that is still in Pin 8.

Unfortunately, I don't yet have an iPhone and am trying to get some resolution to this open issue - one of the last items holding me back from purchase...

[charlie0369]

The cable would be a Video/Audio out cable to work with TV. It should be Yellow(video) Red(audio R) and White (audio L). If it's component then it would in fact be the RGB colors Red/Green/Blue and you would have to listen to audio coming out of iPhone or plug the line out from the headphone jack. If so it would require 2 cables for component connection which would suck *****. Question is does this video plug into the 3.5mm jack or the dock jack on the bottom of phone. I would imagine it would be the 3.5mm jack so it could have audio/video. If it plugs into the bottom of the iphone it would require 5 RCA leads. Red/Green/Blue/White/Red. If it's the latter, then it would be a pretty bulky cable. I'm guessing it's the 3.5mm audio/video jack like the old ones for ipod videos just rearranged and the plug is made to fit the recessed hole on top for the headphones/tv-out jack. IMO

[reef150]

Nope - Video does NOT come out of the 3.5mm headset connector on the top.
There are new cables for the new iPods (and it seems iPhones). They go into the Dock connector. The Composite cable has 5 RCA jacks - Red, Blue Green Video, then Left & Right audio. It also has a USB charging connection. The Composite cable is a Dock connector to three RCA cables.

The mystery question at the moment is if these new cables have the special Apple encryption chip in the cable, and if these are absolutely required to get composite video out of the iPhone with V1.1.1 software.... (composite and s-video used to come out of the dock connector in the previous iPod models).

[AsteroidEarth]

$50 for component cables. just got mine. wish they had a combo one. not enough of my friends have hd tvs for this to be a great accessory

[charlie0369]

If the cable is component, why? like everyone else says, most people don't have HD or even component on their tv sets....Isn't RGB more reserved for higher quality video sources? LOL I don't think the iPhone or any iPod would ever be capable of putting out a source that is anywhere near the quality RGB is suppose to be. Just another way for Apple to squeeze more $$$ out of something so simple.

[reef150]

GordonChil - did you get a chance to "tinker" with the pin-out? Any luck determining what dock-connector pins are used for video (I'm espicially interested in Composite video out).

thanks....

[racer_13b]

bump

[joejoe123]

has anyone seen one of these. I think it is exactly what we want to test to see if the iphone will work without the new supposed apple chip.

[slick2404]

^ i saw those at Futureshop about 6months ago lol. maybe next time i go there i'll swing by test it out....worst case i'll return it lol....but im running 1.0.2 unlocked...

[realisticmind1]

I have tried to older composite cables that came with the ipod photo (YEAH I BOUGHT ONE A LONG TIME AGO, WANNA FIGHT ABOUT IT? ;])

Connected it to my iphone dock. No go, only audio comes out. I did talk to a "genius" at the Apple Store. He wasn't too sure if it was because I was running 1.02 or if it was cause it was that I was using composite cables from the line out of the dock.

[reef150]

I have a DICE Video Cradle which has a 1/8" jack like the "old" composite video cable, as well as a pass-thru dock connector. I cannot confirm, but I assume the composite video, right & left audio signals are split off the pass-thru dock connector and out to the mini jack.

I just tried an iPhone w/ V1.1.1 connected in the cradle, and a camcorder cable (just like the old composite cables, but with different color coding on the RCA jacks).... no video out...

The iPhone must be looking for some signal on the accessory pin, or some type of load on one or more other pins to tell it that it is connected to a video cable and thus could send video out.

Unfortunately, this still does not confirm if composite video is on Pin 8, but probably determines that there is some other magic pin setting required to tell the iPhone that it should send video out....

What I'd give for a breakout cable right now

(on a side note, the DICE car interface module, seems to behave different with V1.1 SW than I think it did with a friends V1.02 SW) - when connected to the DICE unit and playing audio the iPod screen switches to a "Accessory Connected" screen and you lose the ability to see the track detail (and the cover art) on the screen - a real bummer when you have a radio head-end that won't display track text.... Hopefully this and more will all be sorted out in due time...)

[nelveca]

Hi, I upgraded my iphone and I cannot watch videos on TV, does anybody help me what should I do to get this work?
Thanks!

I still cannot connect my iphone to a TV with a AV cable, can anybody tell me what should I do to fix it?