View Poll Results: what do u think about a windows mobile emulator on the iphone

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I really think an emulator could be pretty fast on the iPhone. From what I have read about emulators, Dynamic Recompilation is what slows down most emulators, but that won't
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    I really think an emulator could be pretty fast on the iPhone. From what I have read about emulators, Dynamic Recompilation is what slows down most emulators, but that won't be necessary on the iPhone since most of the code can be executed directly.
    I do have the SDK already, but have yet to even get so far as to write a "Hello World" program yet.

    I do have a little experience porting WM6 and WM6.1 across different devices... I ported WM6.1 for Smartphone from the Moto Q8 to the HTC StarTrek and HTC Tornado. Then I ripped and ported the MS emulator images (for development use) to the same HTC devices. One big difference there were the OEMXIPKernel files and drivers could be reused from the target device. Developing the virtual drivers for iPhone will be a huge challenge, and we might need WinCE Platform Builder for that.

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    Here is an example of how it could be done:
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails windows mobile emulator-wm6iphone.jpg  
    Last edited by Nicholas Knight; 06-05-2008 at 03:03 PM.

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    nickmc... u a dev??? any way thats real good
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    I have only developed programs for WM6 havnt tried iPhone yet i need to learn coccoa or whatever its called should be that much different. I am kinda lazy lol



    I just got an idea. Anyone know who is the developer of Intelliscreen?

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    I think a port of Mono to support Compact Framework applications would be a lot easier...
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    I agree and disagree. There might be a way to not have to port anything at all. I was thinking of how Intelliscreen uses information from calendar, mobilesms, and other apps and displays them on the lock screen. What if we could use the same technology but do it for the homescreen. But yeah mage we need to port mono also. It will open a lot of areas to add .net and server capabitities.

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    cscho0415: http://www.modmyi.com/forums/3rd-par...ml#post1181951 that is the thread
    cscho0415: lol
    luiz: cscho0415
    luiz: that is no simple task
    luiz: is probably a task for zodttd
    cscho0415: i realize thats why im lookin for a dec
    cscho0415: dev*
    luiz: cscho0415
    cscho0415: yah
    cscho0415: luiz??
    DarkMirc: cmoski
    luiz: what im sayin is that this isnt for normal devs... they gotta be pretty much geniuses
    cash: lol
    cash: cmoski|idle,
    cmoski|idl: ?
    luiz: hahah cash...
    cash: cmoski|idle, this sport has a project for you
    cash: make winhoe mobile run on iphone
    cscho0415: luiz is it actually like that icreadibly hard
    cash: and cmoski|idle I know you know more about winhoes mobile than anyone else
    luiz: well yea, firstly u probably couldnt do it in an emulator, too lil ram and such
    luiz: so u would need dual boot
    cscho0415: luiz so you would have to edit the boot loader???
    dale1v: does mmi host intelliscreen
    haseebh2O: ill get ur gf back
    luiz: so cscho0415, i guess we MIGHT have it, but not for a LONG LONg time.. my opinion



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    cool now you are wanting a full WM6 OS or just the look and feel? I can talk to someone in making a WM6 theme and maybe use categories to emulate the look of the start menu.

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    cscho0415: hey can i get a developers opinion on http://www.modmyi.com/forums/3rd-par...-emulator.html
    cscho0415: please
    august: WIMo = evil
    CPICH: wtf???
    sgtblue52: how else would Jobs pay for his 5th hottub, CPICH
    cscho0415: at least look at it
    august: only 5?
    sgtblue52: lol WiMo
    CPICH: heh true sgt
    cscho0415: im not asking ur opinion on winmo... just the thread
    sgtblue52: see, it goes to a good cause
    august: WiMo is about the worst ui you could have on a mobile device
    sgtblue52: unless you were gonna remake it
    sgtblue52: and then it wouldn't be WiMo
    august: wait
    cscho0415: august can u read the thread and tell me if its possible (if ur a dev)
    collin: cscho0415: is it just the BSOD?
    august: you want to port XP?
    sgtblue52: which is a good thing
    cscho0415: bsod???
    cscho0415: august no
    cscho0415: win mo
    cscho0415: windows mobile
    cscho0415: not xp
    august: try to port windows the the iphone
    collin: cscho0415: nvm I saw an app that said "Windows" or something one time and it was just the BSOD
    collin: BSOD is Blue Screen of Death
    august: and why did i have to read the thread?
    cscho0415: oh
    august: the title says it all
    cscho0415: i want to know if its posible
    sgtblue52: WiMo sucks, so no...its not portable. no dev would want to port it.
    sgtblue52: possible*
    collin: LOL
    sgtblue52: there, answer.
    august: maybe that guy who made that vista theme
    sgtblue52: it would be an utter waste of any dev's time.
    cscho0415: not really
    august: there's nothing good to gain
    cscho0415: there are at least 50 responders ti that foorum who want it
    sgtblue52: so find a self-flagellating dev and you'll be good to go
    cscho0415: and there is gian
    cscho0415: like that pdf emulator app
    sgtblue52: all I saw on the first posts was "what's the point"
    august: people want a lot of things
    sgtblue52: pdf what?
    cscho0415: if u read it yes
    august: emulate pdf's?
    cscho0415: there is a pdf emulator comin out
    sgtblue52: what the hell is a PDF emulator
    august: portable document format?
    cscho0415: pda sry
    cscho0415: my bad
    august: you mean palm os emulator
    cscho0415: yah that
    sgtblue52: just as useless
    cscho0415: my bad
    cscho0415: ok but i want to know if it is theoredically posible
    cscho0415: not if its useful
    sgtblue52: I already told you.
    august: theoretically, if you had access to wimo internals
    sgtblue52: Find a self-flagellating dev who's really dedicated.
    august: find Silas
    sgtblue52: And I'm sure they could turn out some bastardized thing that worse than the real thing.
    Olav: of course it's possible, but accuration, compatibitly and performance is another question
    Olav: *
    cscho0415: thanks olav
    cscho0415: what if u dual boot
    cscho0415: and boot in winmo
    Olav: i did not mention that it will come out or something
    cscho0415: ok
    Olav: because i doubt it
    cscho0415: =(
    sgtblue52: most things are "possible"
    sgtblue52: that doesn't mean they're remotely probable
    august: wimo doesn't understand capacitive touch displays
    august: nor multitouch
    cscho0415: niether does winxp but i have seen touch screen pc's
    cscho0415: same wit mac
    cscho0415: u just have where is taped the wame as a mouse clicking it
    august: neither of which are windows ce
    cscho0415: ce?
    august: you don't know much about wimo do you
    cscho0415: i know enough
    august: you obviously don't know what the kernel is
    cscho0415: no
    august: that's an important part of porting
    cscho0415: can u explain it
    cscho0415: or partialy
    cscho0415: its the core of the operating system
    august: Windows Mobile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    cscho0415: it is comunication of software and hardware
    cscho0415: ok
    cscho0415: ce is all window mobile os's


    this another convo on the hackint0sh irc channel

    sry bout the length

    nick thats not the point of the thread.... the whole thing has been full emulation
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    hes wrong about the touch screen part here is an example of touch capabilities with WM6.1

    forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383524

    http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6318/llcopyfc5.png
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    yah... i didnt say he was accurate... he was a **** though... thats what i got on irc for now though... and we are not looking for a theme.... a full blown emulator
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    i know you want a full emulator lol. and I have some ideas just need to figure out somethings tho. Whats the irc link

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    if you would like to join us on irc we will be on irc.moofspeak.net #cscho0415

    as of midnight est (2hours) the new irc channel will be #winmo though i wont be on there till at least tom night...
    so it will now be irc.moofspeak.net #winmo
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    Default clean it up
    Quote Originally Posted by gsr101 View Post
    that would be gay to have windows on an iphone os , if u want a fu**in windows phone go buy one instead of tell developers to make stupid apps !!!!!


    p.s. an iphone is way better than any windows phone.
    Thats a little bit of a harsh comment. Though I agree about buying a windows phone if you need windows. But... I must protest that windows and macs are two differant OS's for two different purposes. So its not fair to say one is better than the other. + hate to sound like your mom, dont say anything at all if you have nothing good to say. thnx!

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    I think a boot job would be better, and we could see more features (eg, Bluetooth) and alot better performance, but no doubt alot harder. But the emulator will be alot easier.

    Good luck guys. I'll defiantly look at this once it's done. Or if I can help anything, I'll keep watch over this forum
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    me nickmc01, megax and brando88 (a dev) had a long irc chat last night...we came to this... an emulator would an easier option. also nick is looking into making a shell such as intelliscreen... but what brando said was that dual boot is the stable way to go... i am looking to contact a dev who i was refereed to i will tell how that goes...
    also mat ill post next time im on irc so u could join in and give ur ideas as well as any one else
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    Great. It's good to know this is being looked into. Is going alot further than the iPhone Linux.
    With the right devs and enough time, this is sure to work. No doubts. A great addition would have to be zodttd as of his knowledge of porting emulation systems.
    This will be the next big step in iPhone development.

    Let me ask, does someone currently hold the WinMo OS? Have have we yet to acquire it?
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    I have a blackjack so yes

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    Sweet, so it's been made into an image an on your computer, ready for the importing to start?
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    not yet i need to look into a lot of different things.

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