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Thanks for this, I signed the petition! Hopefully everyone else does too! Even if it doesn't apply to them.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Signed and replied.

I filed a complaint in Nov 2012. Will definitely sign the petition too. But if AT&T allows FaceTime on unlimited data, I'll give credit to myself rather than this petition.

Signed and tweeted.

This is awesome. I usually don't sign or support online petitions (or good ol' fashioned petitions for that matter).

Education, gun control, women's rights, human rights, genocide...BORING! Dont have the time.

AT&T not allowing me to use FaceTime while other AT&T customers on cheaper plans, paying AT&T less money, and not having been AT&T customers nearly as long as I have can....Is Unacceptable! The whole thing is completely backwards. Instead of rewarding their loyal customers for staying with them despite the lack of customer service, they are punishing the loyal customer for...being loyal customers.

They try and twist the loyal customers arm into switching to a new plan (so they lose unlimited data, which they won't tell you) by putting special restrictions on them, and only them, to try and convince them to switch plans. If the loyal customer does not switch plans like they want, they will continue to enforce restrictions until the customer decides it would just be easier to switch....

This is the best example of a business bullying its customers I have ever seen, it's ridiculous. Completely ridiculous.

Originally Posted by iLoveWindows&iPhone

This is awesome. I usually don't sign or support online petitions (or good ol' fashioned petitions for that matter).

Education, gun control, women's rights, human rights, genocide...BORING! Dont have the time.

AT&T not allowing me to use FaceTime while other AT&T customers on cheaper plans, paying AT&T less money, and not having been AT&T customers nearly as long as I have can....Is Unacceptable! The whole thing is completely backwards. Instead of rewarding their loyal customers for staying with them despite the lack of customer service, they are punishing the loyal customer for...being loyal customers.

They try and twist the loyal customers arm into switching to a new plan (so they lose unlimited data, which they won't tell you) by putting special restrictions on them, and only them, to try and convince them to switch plans. If the loyal customer does not switch plans like they want, they will continue to enforce restrictions until the customer decides it would just be easier to switch....

This is the best example of a business bullying its customers I have ever seen, it's ridiculous. Completely ridiculous.

With all opinions aside, It has nothing to do with that. AT&T doesn't want the network congestion having users chat freely with no limits. Is it fair, maybe not. But that's the facts.

Originally Posted by Scotty Manley Silberhorn

Thanks for this, I signed the petition! Hopefully everyone else does too! Even if it doesn't apply to them.

I signed it.

And the unlimited data get throttled after 3 gig on 3G anyway, making FaceTime unusable!!!

Originally Posted by iLoveWindows&iPhone

This is awesome. I usually don't sign or support online petitions (or good ol' fashioned petitions for that matter).

Education, gun control, women's rights, human rights, genocide...BORING! Dont have the time.

AT&T not allowing me to use FaceTime while other AT&T customers on cheaper plans, paying AT&T less money, and not having been AT&T customers nearly as long as I have can....Is Unacceptable! The whole thing is completely backwards. Instead of rewarding their loyal customers for staying with them despite the lack of customer service, they are punishing the loyal customer for...being loyal customers.

They try and twist the loyal customers arm into switching to a new plan (so they lose unlimited data, which they won't tell you) by putting special restrictions on them, and only them, to try and convince them to switch plans. If the loyal customer does not switch plans like they want, they will continue to enforce restrictions until the customer decides it would just be easier to switch....

This is the best example of a business bullying its customers I have ever seen, it's ridiculous. Completely ridiculous.

What makes you think that unlimited data plan customers are paying AT&T more? It's actually opposite. They make more, a lot more money from overages (when people go over their limited data plan). That's why AT&T wants to get rid of all unlimited data plan customers because we pay less and use lot more.

This is solely about money: unlimited data plans are not as financially rewarding as are tiered plans, which involve "overage" payments if/when a user goes over a set limit. A good question to ask is what percentage of AT&T users have unlimited plans, and how folding them into access to FaceTime would affect the network. Since AT&T just allowed a large group of users into the FaceTime pool, congestion would not seem to be the driving force behind this action. I would need to see hard data that AT&T's network would be in any way affected to believe a word of this. I think it is a matter of closing down data plans AT&T wants to remove. Nothing more.

Originally Posted by ThatOneProfile

With all opinions aside, It has nothing to do with that. AT&T doesn't want the network congestion having users chat freely with no limits. Is it fair, maybe not. But that's the facts.

Then why is it that I can give up my unlimited plan and change to one with more unthrottled data and use it all on Facetime? With AT&T unlimited does not mean unlimited.

Indeed, network congestion would seem to not be the motivating factor. They're quite happy to let those who pay more for data tie up the lines all day.

Last time i heard they were already doing this, cause i called At&t n they told me that they rolling this out quietly within the next few months SOOO i can wait TBH.

Signed and shared

Originally Posted by Perceptum

Then why is it that I can give up my unlimited plan and change to one with more unthrottled data and use it all on Facetime? With AT&T unlimited does not mean unlimited.

Good point.

done!

I use to have unlimited and opted out on my own accord. I just dont see the point on paying for "unlimited" but getting throttled at 2 or 3gb. whats the point of having X amount of internet when its at Edge speeds? I didnt see a point. So i switched to 3gb a month and was able to downgrade my monthly plan to the lowest. Saving myself about $30 a month (went from $130 cellphone bill down to $97).

Originally Posted by itsjustlenny

I use to have unlimited and opted out on my own accord. I just dont see the point on paying for "unlimited" but getting throttled at 2 or 3gb. whats the point of having X amount of internet when its at Edge speeds? I didnt see a point. So i switched to 3gb a month and was able to downgrade my monthly plan to the lowest. Saving myself about $30 a month (went from $130 cellphone bill down to $97).

That's why att pushes users away from the unlimited. Same reason with facetime. They make it a burden on you guys.

Originally Posted by ThatOneProfile

That's why att pushes users away from the unlimited. Same reason with facetime. They make it a burden on you guys.

Well, I don't believe it's really a burden. For one thing, one doesn't need to worry about overages, and people on tiered plan have been known to be throttled as well. Combine that with the fact that unlimited costs less than many of the tiered plans, and I think it is worth it to stay.

Originally Posted by mr117

this is solely about money: Unlimited data plans are not as financially rewarding as are tiered plans, which involve "overage" payments if/when a user goes over a set limit. A good question to ask is what percentage of at&t users have unlimited plans, and how folding them into access to facetime would affect the network. Since at&t just allowed a large group of users into the facetime pool, congestion would not seem to be the driving force behind this action. I would need to see hard data that at&t's network would be in any way affected to believe a word of this. I think it is a matter of closing down data plans at&t wants to remove. Nothing more.

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