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  • Ballmer: Apple is "Too Controlled" and "Too Expensive"


    This past week, CEO Steve Ballmer was interviewed by LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman while at the Churchill Club in Santa Clara. One of the more interesting subjects that the two discussed between was Microsoft’s Windows Phone platform and how it compared to its two main rivals, Apple’s iOS platform and Google’s Android platform. As expected, Ballmer didn’t have good things to say about his competitors. He went as far as calling Android “wild” and “uncontrolled,” then saying the iPhone is “too expensive” and “too controlled.” He stated that he felt that Windows Phone was in the sweet spot between the two.

    Going into further detail, Ballmer highlighted that Google’s Android ecosystem is “wild” from an app compatibility perspective, and that the company’s open, “uncontrolled” approach meant that many devices were susceptible to malware. When talking about the iOS platform, he said “the Apple ecosystem looks highly controlled and, by the way, quite high priced.” He provided an example of the iPhone going on sale in Russia last week, at a cost upwards of $1,000, which he believes will cause Apple to struggle to sell its smartphone in the country at that price.

    Ballmer continued by saying “So the question is, how do you get the quality, but maybe not at the premium price, with a controlled, but maybe not quite as controlled ecosystem?” By saying this he of course was alluding to the Windows Phone platform, which he claimed offers “the best of both worlds.” He mentioned that the platform gives users the safe, controlled ecosystem you get with Apple devices, but with the price and diversity you get with Android devices. He even went as far as pointing out that Microsoft works closely with software developers, while stating that Apple and Google do not. He gave examples at Apple’s “Maps debacle,” after proclaiming that Windows “just works.”

    How do you feel about Ballmer’s statements?

    Source: TechCrunch
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Ballmer: Apple is "Too Controlled" and "Too Expensive" started by Akshay Masand View original post
    Comments 31 Comments
    1. DampDesigns's Avatar
      DampDesigns -
      Quote Originally Posted by Slim J View Post
      Well does Ballmer realize that the UI of the Windows Phone looks like it was designed by a 5 year old. I played around with a Windows Phone 7 but I have yet to play with the 8. All I can say about WP8 is with animated tiles and all of them being a different size will seem chaotic. I may try and play with a WP8 next week if I can
      Steve Wozniak seems to think otherwise.

      Wozniak loves his Windows Phone: Apple co-founder calls mobile OS ‘beautiful’ - GeekWire
    1. Mrteacup's Avatar
      Mrteacup -
      I have to agree apple is controlling and android is uncontrolled. However windows is not in the sweet spot..
    1. teej1410's Avatar
      teej1410 -
      I prefer Android for its customization options, iOS for its simplicity and smooth looks, and Windows Phone for a perfect example of a bad UI.
    1. csglinux's Avatar
      csglinux -
      I used to think Apple was too controlling. But if Steve Ballmer just said that, I realize now that I must have been horribly wrong.
    1. Airwaves182's Avatar
      Airwaves182 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Slim J View Post
      Well does Ballmer realize that the UI of the Windows Phone looks like it was designed by a 5 year old. I played around with a Windows Phone 7 but I have yet to play with the 8. All I can say about WP8 is with animated tiles and all of them being a different size will seem chaotic. I may try and play with a WP8 next week if I can
      Chaotic? You must have a brain of a 5 year old then. O.e
    1. hapishyguy's Avatar
      hapishyguy -
      Quote Originally Posted by DampDesigns View Post
      The Nokia Lumia 920 is selling for $99. Walmart had it for $50. That's quite a bit cheaper than $199. Regardless of price though, Apple has plenty of fanboys that will take more than a low price to get them away from Apple. Microsoft's biggest dilemma is apps, not price.

      And as far as the Windows 8 vs. Mountain Lion... I'm very disappointed with the Mountain Lion update on my Macbook Pro and would gladly say it's not worth the upgrade. Windows 8 however is a complete system upgrade. Not saying it's worth it either but at least you can visually see some big changes.

      Don't hate on other products just because they're not the products you adore.
      I totally agree. I have Windows 8 and its beautiful. Its a lot different and yet the same as windows 7. I have had iPhone since it came out until 4S but dont get me wrong,,, its nothing much of a difference. Its time to move to another platforma nd next phone is Nokia Lumia 920.

      Read this

      Co-founder of Apple, Steve Wozniak worried Microsoft is more innovative than Apple | Windows Phone Central
    1. kalpesh78's Avatar
      kalpesh78 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Gamemaster77 View Post
      I can turn that around and say Anything Apple sucks. See how pointless that statement is?
      I have both the operating systems. windows does suck when it comes to usability. hanging is another problem that ha plagued windows since eternity and microsoft's done nothing to fix it.
    1. Gamemaster77's Avatar
      Gamemaster77 -
      Quote Originally Posted by kalpesh78 View Post
      I have both the operating systems. windows does suck when it comes to usability. hanging is another problem that ha plagued windows since eternity and microsoft's done nothing to fix it.
      I can do everything I need to quite easily on Windows. Maybe you have a cheap $500 dollar computer with Windows, I've had no problems with it.
    1. scroogelives's Avatar
      scroogelives -
      Quote Originally Posted by Alluziion View Post
      Microsoft's Core Market...

      Microsoft Windows 8: £45
      OS X Mountain Lion: £15

      Also, the Windows 8 phones are not going to be that much cheaper than the iPhone. Steve talks through his ***, he just needs to accept the fact that Microsoft were late entering the market and have to pick up the crumbs.
      Apple aren't late to the phone market! It's just they have never been good at making phone software and from what I have seen they still aren't!! And going with Nokia for there main phone maker is a joke Nokia is dead and has been for so long!
    1. ericwall's Avatar
      ericwall -
      1. People don't like change. Read the studies.
      2. Apple brings slow changes - the majority of their customers like that.
      3. Microsoft brings extreme changes - not many people like that.

      You can complain all you want about the iPhone, it still sells better than any other phone.
    1. scottjl's Avatar
      scottjl -
      Quote Originally Posted by DampDesigns View Post
      It's a good thing he's an expert on designing hardware and not UIs.