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  • Major Corporations Turn Attention to Jailbreak Scene


    In July of last year, the Federal Government brought some clarification to a previously much-debated question and declared jailbreaking legal. Millions of folks who'd jailbroken their iDevices rejoiced, but aside from that not much changed visibly.

    Now, however, we are beginning to see signs pointing to the legitimization of the jailbreak community in big business' eyes. With millions of iDevices in circulation, and over 4-5 million active jailbreakers (that number being the amount of individual devices which have logged into Cydia in the past week), major corporations have largely been ignoring this major niche market. We're beginning to see that change. I got some rough numbers from saurik, who says 8-9% of iDevice users are jailbroken, 1.5 million unique users log into Cydia daily, 4-5 million weekly. By his estimate, there are 10-15 million jailbroken iDevices out there. He notes he'll have better stats soon due to his new database statistics structure.

    Scion, a brand of vehicles manufactured by Toyota, recently developed a custom iPhone theme specifically for jailbroken devices, submitting it to us for hosting in Cydia (full disclosure: they are also running an ad campaign through ModMyi.com within Cydia pointing to said theme, and this article is unrelated to that). Search Scion 2011 Theme in Cydia to find it. This is the first major corporation we have seen put direct positive attention into the jailbreak scene, developing specifically for it and addressing this large userbase. Could this be a turning of the tide for the previously "outlaw" jailbreak community?

    There's tons of obvious plays for the market available. Amazon has started their /own/ [ame="http://www.amazon.com/mobile-apps/b/ref=topnav_storetab_mas?ie=UTF8&node=2350149011"]Android AppStore[/ame], aside from Android's own store. Adobe has been going around and around with Apple for years trying to get Flash on these devices, losing out on a huge amount of the mobile market share. There's an extremely viable option in the jailbreak community for them to develop and release here, as it's obvious Apple won't be relenting anytime soon. Flash purposefully wasn't even included on the latest Macbook Airs ([ame]http://modmyi.com/forums/mac-news/734107-apple-no-preinstalled-flash-macs.html[/ame]). Cydia essentially has the entire market of jailbreak - what if many companies, sports teams, and schools had their own themes in Cydia as well as their apps already in the AppStore?

    There is a huge market in the jailbreak community being ignored by big business, assumedly because of the association with terms like "hacker" and Apple's very public previous anti-jailbreak stance. Apple remains anti-jailbreak, stating it "may" void your warranty. Note - they do not state it "does" void your warranty - they know they won't win in court if they try to deny someone a warranty from a fault which had nothing to do with the actual jailbreaking (ie, hardware failure).

    iPhones, iPod Touches, and iPads are extremely powerful mobile computers. Apple's iOS is the best mobile OS - so why do we have restricted devices? Apple touts the security of OS X just as much as iOS - yet OS X computers allow us full access. No other personal computers have these sandbox restrictions (not even Macs), and for major corporations to be able to develop without constraint for the iDevices would be beneficial to all of us. There's a giant market which is being largely ignored. Cydia is awesomely poised to be a great avenue for say, Flash. If a user chooses to jailbreak their device, so be it. Or even better - if no jailbreak was needed and Apple shipped a device we could fully access just like all our other computers. The line between mobile phone and computer has been blurred for years, and is only becoming more so.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Major Corporations Turn Attention to Jailbreak Scene started by Kyle Matthews View original post
    Comments 106 Comments
    1. Co1d Night's Avatar
      Co1d Night -
      I wanna see Microsoft make a theme 0.0


      Sent from my iPod touch using ModMyi
    1. lighter's Avatar
      lighter -
      Quote Originally Posted by moon#pie View Post
      Probably not much more, seeing as they will just turn to the devs. But it could mean cheaper better stuff because devs are on a company's payroll

      Doubt it.. a company is not going to take liability that there method of jb broke your idev... cuz if it bricks it.... your gonna turn around and sue them... not gonna happen... dev team lives on... lol
    1. wolverinemarky's Avatar
      wolverinemarky -
      Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
      We are still a small percentage
      i think because largely not many people know how to go about JB their phones especially all the cool tweaks they can get like sbsettings and bitesms(with quickreply from lockscreen), winterboard, etc... I have personally helped like 30 people who never even knew what jb was and now they are diehard apple iphone users for life
    1. hogcia's Avatar
      hogcia -
      Maybe if the jb hackers would charge for the jb hacks we would see jb sooner. Still waiting for 4.3.1, I hear its out there in beta.
    1. pachi1972's Avatar
      pachi1972 -
      Quote Originally Posted by LastSonOfKrypton View Post
      I wouldn't own an iPhone if I couldn't jailbreak it. They are a cool device for a day or two but after that you begin to realize all the functionality Apple doesn't give you which other OS' have stock. It's sad.
      Without JB the iPhone is a POS. The 3G is completely crippled.


      Sent from my iPhone using ModMyi
    1. MikePA's Avatar
      MikePA -
      Quote Originally Posted by weeman247 View Post
      This had to happen. Apple should really except the inevitable, jailbreaking will happen no matter what. They must know that many of their devices are sold on the fact that they are jailbreakable. My answer to apple is employ the brains behind the jailbreaks and hacks and manufacture your phones the way we want them. One's we can mod, customize etc.
    1. Striknine's Avatar
      Striknine -
      I can foresee a day when we will have to pay for our jailbreak. As much of a demand as it is for it, I'm not sure why a dev wouldn't charge people. I would pay for it (although I do like the fact that it's free) I also would like more hackers working towards getting it to us sooner and untethered. If a few guys are currently delivering the jailbreaks a few weeks after an iOS update just picture how fast we would get it if there were 10 times as many people working on it. Who would pay say $20 for their jailbreak within the 1st week of a major update? I would and I also would expect for them to get paid good money for their hard work. There is money to be made in this industry and this is just a scratch on the surface.
    1. NBAKingzFan10's Avatar
      NBAKingzFan10 -
      Quote Originally Posted by moon#pie View Post
      Windows let your neighbors see you naked unless you put up curtains ($100 a year virus protection).

      I hope this starts a new trend for other companies. I would love to see Adobe adapt flash player to the iPhone, using Cydia as its main distributor. If Apple wants to have a stick up their *** over what can and cannot go on their precious device (that we own, not them), then I more than encourage major companies to bypass them using this method.

      Surely this will **** Steve Jobs off, and we can expect to see harsher attempts at blocking the JB on future iDevices if this does indeed take off. He's too much of a control freak to let this whole thing go.
    1. quidam_brujah's Avatar
      quidam_brujah -
      Quote Originally Posted by lighter View Post
      The only reason I don't see big companies jumping all over this is because it relies on a JB to start off with. Now if you look at it... these days this JB's are starting to take longer and longer to come out and if a company is relying on this to make them money but now have to wait for someone to "hack" the device... well your business is on hold... just a thought...
      On a related note, if Company X makes an app that relies on JB, they can be held liable for anything that goes wrong in the system and Apple will be held blameless as they can say they had nothing to do with the app, it wasn't review/approved by them, it violates Apple API usage, etc. It will be difficult (read: not worth the investigation) for anyone to prove otherwise.

      A theme here & there, possibly... but what company wants to deal with the PR and legal nightmare of having their cute little app be used as a viral-hijack tool for the iDev community? Smaller companies, those kind which are little more than 3 college-age guys hacking some apps out, will see a better risk-reward ratio. Bigger companies likely won't.
    1. lilljav's Avatar
      lilljav -
      How true!

      Quote Originally Posted by lighter View Post
      The only reason I don't see big companies jumping all over this is because it relies on a JB to start off with. Now if you look at it... these days this JB's are starting to take longer and longer to come out and if a company is relying on this to make them money but now have to wait for someone to "hack" the device... well your business is on hold... just a thought...
      How true!
    1. bruinsrme's Avatar
      bruinsrme -
      Quote Originally Posted by LastSonOfKrypton View Post
      I wouldn't own an iPhone if I couldn't jailbreak it. They are a cool device for a day or two but after that you begin to realize all the functionality Apple doesn't give you which other OS' have stock. It's sad.
      I made the mistake of getting an iPhone 4 and dumped my 3GS. It was the longest most boring time I had with the iPhone.
      Ip5 can come out but if there isn't a jb I will forego the upgrade until a jail break comes out.
      Having corporate backing in the jailbreak community may help speed up the process, especially if they can make money off the community.

      Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
      We are still a small percentage
      The percentage may still be small but the overall numbers of people that are jailbreaking is increasing.
      Influence a niche group, usually a more educated/informed group may be seen as a distribution channel.
      Think about modmyi, what's the percentage of jailbreakers that frequent this forum, I am sure its a small%. Yet information published here is disimenated to the rest of the community, rapidly at that.
      Let's not discount the influence the "minority of a community" can have on a product or service.
    1. Robsbrutal's Avatar
      Robsbrutal -
      What if apple bought Cydia and implemented it into the iOS and ran it like the app store kinda. That'd be sweet!!
    1. rocketApe's Avatar
      rocketApe -
      Like someone else said, I just hope this doesn't mean brutal and un-ignorable ad campaigns on Cydia. I do like the idea of wide corporate acceptance, as that can only broaden jailbreaking acceptability worldwide, but I still like it that many people avoid it because they think it's illegal. Kinda like if everyone else didn't like ice cream. More for me, you know?
    1. area51crypto's Avatar
      area51crypto -
      Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
      We are still a small percentage
      Bro I am glad you said that!

      The thing I just don't understand is why a company would spend millions of dollars on a trivial thing as jailbreaking and not spend it on things that would make there business better and their product more productive.

      Only reason I can think of is SJ is jealous of Saurik.

      He must want Saurik's profit from Cydia also.

      JMO
    1. exNavy's Avatar
      exNavy -
      How come the lock screens don't look like your example?

      All they did was change the font, and the slide message. Disappointed. No picture of a car, no slider button that looks like a car.
    1. rayzeur22's Avatar
      rayzeur22 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Robsbrutal View Post
      What if apple bought Cydia and implemented it into the iOS and ran it like the app store kinda. That'd be sweet!!
      That would be horrible! Apple would destroy everything the devs have worked for years on. They would remove packages gradually until there was nothing left but the crApp Store.
    1. h2a's Avatar
      h2a -
      I would only support corporations using Cydia if the jailbreaks came out more consistently and a lot faster. Right now the people making them have real lives to tend to and thus leaving us without a jailbreak a lot longer than a team who perhaps if they were funded, would be able to release almost same-day jailbreaks.
    1. Mrteacup's Avatar
      Mrteacup -
      Major companies will be interested but soon realize that you can get everything free on Cydia but it's still exciting
    1. sykeck's Avatar
      sykeck -
      i think apple has to do something.

      maybe they should think about ther appstore policitys.
      e.g they could add a section to the app store as "non tested apps"
      for this section you have to agree something like apple is not responible for damages or additional coasts.

      and in this section everybody can release things.
    1. moon#pie's Avatar
      moon#pie -
      Quote Originally Posted by lighter View Post
      Doubt it.. a company is not going to take liability that there method of jb broke your idev... cuz if it bricks it.... your gonna turn around and sue them... not gonna happen... dev team lives on... lol
      No one said anything about jailbreaks.