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  • Samsung Claims Their Multitouch Software is Sub Par to Avoid Dutch Galaxy Ban


    In what seems to be a rather bizarre event, Samsung recently told the court in Netherlands that their multitouch software is terrible in comparison to that of Apple’s. This was done in a desperate attempt to avoid having their products banned from the Netherlands, a move that would definitely hurt the South Korean electronics manufacturer.

    Apple in the Court of the Hague said that Samsung should be banned from selling Galaxy devices in the Netherlands because the South Korean electronics company has infringed on their “touch event model” patent. This particular patent describes technology that prevents smartphone users from making erroneous touches at the same time. Samsung lawyer, Bas Berghuis van Woortman argued “while Apple’s technology is a “very nice invention,” the technique used in Android differs from the iOS solution. Because the Android based method is more hierarchical the system is more complex and therefore harder for developers to use.”

    In order for Apple to win the case, the Cupertino California company argued that Samsung’s touch event model is totally almost as good as theirs, with Apple lawyer, Theo Blomme telling the judge the following:

    They suggest that they have a lesser solution, but that is simply not true. The technique used in Android does solve a multiple input “conflict situation” and in that way the Android software essentially does the same as Apple’s.
    At the end of it all, the court ended up seeing Samsung continually claiming their multitouch is terrible all while Apple continued to praise how awesome Samsung’s multitouch is, just to turn around and slam them with the ban. The thought of Samsung talking their product down while Apple talking it up is definitely something we don’t see too often.

    Source: PC World
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Samsung Claims Their Multitouch Software is Sub Par to Avoid Dutch Galaxy Ban started by Akshay Masand View original post
    Comments 88 Comments
    1. GmAz's Avatar
      GmAz -
      Quote Originally Posted by Mrteacup View Post
      And people wonder why apple is so much better than android. how about the fact that THERE IS a website for tech-support, community, rumors for iphones. however androids no they have uh.. the official motorola website. I can go to any electronics store and guess what ill find. a case for my iphone however if i go searching for an android case its very unlikely it will be there. QUALITY > QUANTITY.

      also people will think this is just apple supressing samsungs capabilities but this has just proven that samsung wants nothing more than to copy others technologies and use different hardware, instead of innovating and creating their own technology with their hardware. "Someone who simply follows in the footsteps wont ever make a mark." -some internet quote i remember
      Droidforums.net rootzwiki.com xda-developers.com Those are just to name a few. There are TONS of android sites out there that are way WAY better than modmyi.
    1. scroogelives's Avatar
      scroogelives -
      Think this is the quality of samsungs legal team!!! First thing samsung need to do is hire a real legal team not ones that have clearly got their qualifications of the Internet!! I love my iPhone 4s and yes the touch interface is smooth compaired to the andriod handsets I have had! But then I have not had a Samsung to date but have to say this is the worst defence I have heard to date! But then it might just work lol
    1. Anonymous's Avatar
      Anonymous -
      Quote Originally Posted by iPodTouch149 View Post
      Kyphur just shut the **** up cuz nobody cares!
      This really is a lame comment...

      Quote Originally Posted by GmAz View Post
      Droidforums.net rootzwiki.com xda-developers.com
      xda dev is a pretty awesome one. But the android fanboys should be going to those websites instead of here, no?

      ------

      Telling people their device of preference is stupid is definitely not going to make them change their mind.
    1. drigo1178's Avatar
      drigo1178 -
      Quote Originally Posted by NegativeBeef View Post
      Do you have any proof of that or are you just speaking out of your *** like a typical iPhone fanboy?
      please for the love of youe mother who gave birth to your dumb ***. read the rests of my posts.

      Quote Originally Posted by Slimz View Post
      I'm old. They are all impossible for me to see in the sun, and my kids are grown and gone. Lol.

      You really don't read well, do you? I don't know how many times I said Touchwiz is terrible. I don't know how much more simpler I can say it. I'm agreeing with you, what else is there to understand? All I said, is if you want the best Android experience, AOSP is where you need to compare. You want to compare two year old phones? Sure, the difference is Apple is exactly the same today as it was two years ago, Android has evolved quite a bit. Two years ago, Android was garbage. The Galaxy S? Junk. Lets compare a 70's Ferrari and the Italia 458 while were at it too.

      If he has a Galaxy Nexus do the update to Jelly Bean, because it's official, and it's a "stock" release, by your definition. It's far better and above any Samsung OS offering. The hardware in it, wasn't anywhere near the SIII, or the One X - and its still buttery smooth.
      You insult me with not reading, but you continue to not see the point. Can I root my phone? absolutely. Do i care to? no. If it takes completely different software to get the phone to run the way its supposed to and on par with an ip4, then something is wrong isnt it? I mean why wouldnt samsung want to ship thier phones with the best version of software so that the end user gets the best experience.

      the reason i keep bringing up a two year old phone is for the exact reason that a two year old IP4 performs just as well as my brand new siii, except my siii with similar if not the same apps just crashes more. yes i know, upgrade to JB cus touchwiz sucks blah ....its been your argument for awhile now.

      Ill try the nexus with JB once i get my hands on it.
    1. Tperry's Avatar
      Tperry -
      Quote Originally Posted by NegativeBeef View Post
      Do you have any proof of that or are you just speaking out of your *** like a typical iPhone fanboy?
      Actually there was a study that showed that apps on iPhone actually crashed more.
    1. Jj2345's Avatar
      Jj2345 -
      I can put a password on individual apps on my stock galaxy s3
      Have you heard of that barrel tweak in cydia?well it's stock for android
      I can turn off wifi,Bluetooth,data From my pull down notification screen without having to unlock my phone
      Can you change themes on a stock iPhone?no. But you can with android,I'm running a theme called "BOSS"
      I can put 5 icons instead of 4 on my icon dock
      I can add two more rows to my bottom icon dock
      My keyboard Buttons can vibrate
      Andriod has 4g LTE phones way before apple
      I can change my keyboard,change the color and theme it to my liking
      Don't need iTunes,you just drag whatever songs you want from anyone's PC or laptop
      Home screen widgets
      I have so much more but you see the point here,and what's best is that its All bone stock on my Samsung galaxy s3 :-)
      No need to jailbreak or root.

      so which OS is better fellas?
    1. Anonymous's Avatar
      Anonymous -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jj2345 View Post
      I can put a password on individual apps on my stock galaxy s3
      Have you heard of that barrel tweak in cydia?well it's stock for android
      I can turn off wifi,Bluetooth,data From my pull down notification screen...which apple stole in ios 5
      Can you change themes on a stock iPhone?no. But you can with android
      I can put 5 icons instead of 4 on my icon dock
      I can add two more rows to my bottom icon dock
      My keyboard Buttons can vibrate
      Andriod has 4g LTE phones way before apple
      I can change my keyboard,change the color and theme it to my liking
      Don't need iTunes,you just drag whatever songs you want from anyone's PC or laptop
      Home screen widgets

      All bone stock on my Samsung galaxy s3 :-)
      No need to jailbreak or root
      ^ Guys, this guy is DEFINITELY cooler than everybody else.
    1. Jj2345's Avatar
      Jj2345 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous View Post
      ^ Guys, this guy is DEFINITELY cooler than everybody else.
      Lol
      I'm not saying I'm better than everyone else but I used to think android was garbage until I purchase my first android phone last month and realized most of the cool tweaks that my jailbroken iPhone had android had it already stock.
    1. Anonymous's Avatar
      Anonymous -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jj2345 View Post
      Lol
      I'm not saying I'm better than everyone else but I used to think android was garbage until I purchase my first android phone last month and realized most of the cool tweaks that my jailbroken iPhone had android had it already stock.
      Just kidding bro. I've played around with Android, but one of the things that's stopping me from switching is all the apps, some podcasts, and songs in my library, purchases, etc. It would take a long time to fully switch over.

      Android has its pro's and con's. It keeps looking nicer and nicer, too.
    1. Jj2345's Avatar
      Jj2345 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous View Post
      Just kidding bro. I've played around with Android, but one of the things that's stopping me from switching is all the apps, some podcasts, and songs in my library, purchases, etc. It would take a long time to fully switch over.

      Android has its pro's and con's. It keeps looking nicer and nicer, too.
      Yeah I understand,I too spent a chunk of money on apps and music,but I still have my iPad so it's not a total loss
    1. subywrex's Avatar
      subywrex -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jj2345 View Post
      I can put a password on individual apps on my stock galaxy s3
      Have you heard of that barrel tweak in cydia?well it's stock for android
      I can turn off wifi,Bluetooth,data From my pull down notification screen without having to unlock my phone
      Can you change themes on a stock iPhone?no. But you can with android,I'm running a theme called "BOSS"
      I can put 5 icons instead of 4 on my icon dock
      I can add two more rows to my bottom icon dock
      My keyboard Buttons can vibrate
      Andriod has 4g LTE phones way before apple
      I can change my keyboard,change the color and theme it to my liking
      Don't need iTunes,you just drag whatever songs you want from anyone's PC or laptop
      Home screen widgets
      I have so much more but you see the point here,and what's best is that its All bone stock on my Samsung galaxy s3 :-)
      No need to jailbreak or root.

      so which OS is better fellas?
      iOS still IMHO runs better. The above listed features don't interest me. Beside I ran the "BOSS" theme and its only icons. Please show me a theme for android that is done in its fullest like iOS.

      Also if s3 ICS keyboard didn't suck you wouldn't need to change it. Lol.

      No doubt android has not options but options are relative to who uses or needs them

      Quote Originally Posted by Jj2345 View Post
      I can put a password on individual apps on my stock galaxy s3
      Have you heard of that barrel tweak in cydia?well it's stock for android
      I can turn off wifi,Bluetooth,data From my pull down notification screen without having to unlock my phone
      Can you change themes on a stock iPhone?no. But you can with android,I'm running a theme called "BOSS"
      I can put 5 icons instead of 4 on my icon dock
      I can add two more rows to my bottom icon dock
      My keyboard Buttons can vibrate
      Andriod has 4g LTE phones way before apple
      I can change my keyboard,change the color and theme it to my liking
      Don't need iTunes,you just drag whatever songs you want from anyone's PC or laptop
      Home screen widgets
      I have so much more but you see the point here,and what's best is that its All bone stock on my Samsung galaxy s3 :-)
      No need to jailbreak or root.

      so which OS is better fellas?
      Still think iOS is better. It runs more stable and streamlined. Features are only features. You can put a million features in a dodge neon but guess what at the end of the day it's still a neon lol
    1. jOnGarrett's Avatar
      jOnGarrett -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ambi_Valence View Post
      Stifles competition? Does this not force them to innovate, which increases diversity and thereby competition?
      apple doesnt innovate., look how much they've stolen and look at how many of their patents are so broad and vague that nay device infringes--a rectangle with rounded corners !! seriously?!?!?
    1. Jj2345's Avatar
      Jj2345 -
      Quote Originally Posted by subywrex View Post
      iOS still IMHO runs better. The above listed features don't interest me. Beside I ran the "BOSS" theme and its only icons. Please show me a theme for android that is done in its fullest like iOS.

      Also if s3 ICS keyboard didn't suck you wouldn't need to change it. Lol.

      No doubt android has not options but options are relative to who uses or needs them



      Still think iOS is better. It runs more stable and streamlined. Features are only features. You can put a million features in a dodge neon but guess what at the end of the day it's still a neon lol
      Wow! Subywrex!! I've purchase many of your themes man!! Your awsome!!
      but Those tweaks I've mentioned,I have them on my iPhone so I needed them on my galaxy as well.they may not be important to you but it's crucial for me.Features are only features as you say but at apple should give me that option

      A STOCK iPhone doesn't have themes so dont compare a jailbroken iphone to a stock android at least with my galaxy I can change my icons straight out the box.sure with a jailbroken iphone they take it to the next level by theming every god damn thing in sight lol,but I'm comparing stock vs stock OS here.apple don't even want us jailbreaking our own devices,if they could they'd sue each and every one of us for jailbreaking our iPhones or iPads.
    1. jOnGarrett's Avatar
      jOnGarrett -
      Quote Originally Posted by subywrex View Post
      iOS still IMHO runs better. The above listed features don't interest me. Beside I ran the "BOSS" theme and its only icons. Please show me a theme for android that is done in its fullest like iOS.

      Also if s3 ICS keyboard didn't suck you wouldn't need to change it. Lol.

      No doubt android has not options but options are relative to who uses or needs them



      Still think iOS is better. It runs more stable and streamlined. Features are only features. You can put a million features in a dodge neon but guess what at the end of the day it's still a neon lol
      you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Android themes are more advanced than iOS and dont require rooting or a tedious and complex set up. and there was a study that showed iOS crashes 4 times as often as Android does.

      you people really hate Facts don't you? use Google, you'd be surprised what you could find if you searched.
    1. Anonymous's Avatar
      Anonymous -
      Quote Originally Posted by jOnGarrett View Post
      you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Android themes are more advanced than iOS and dont require rooting or a tedious and complex set up. and there was a study that showed iOS crashes 4 times as often as Android does.

      you people really hate Facts don't you? use Google, you'd be surprised what you could find if you searched.
      But all the good themes are made for iOS.
    1. alanjf's Avatar
      alanjf -
      Quote Originally Posted by redapex View Post
      I'm so sick of hearing the word "innovation". The only other "innovation" the iPhone has made since its launch might be the retina display and even that I'm tempted to call an evolutionary step.
      Especially when you consider "retina display" is nothing more than a high resolution display. There isn't any more to it, just higher res. Then they just made the graphics that make up the user interface twice as wide and tall so that visual they look the same size but smoother, thanks to the higher resolution. Nothing new, just rather nice execution.
    1. szr's Avatar
      szr -
      Quote Originally Posted by MetallicaFan1991 View Post
      Then get of an..........wait for it................................................ ......... Apple forum!

      Just to clarify this is a Apple oriented forum NOT any other product/manufacturer.
      This is a place for discussion, it is NOT limited to discussions of only Apple products, that is only the central topic.
    1. vaughnfelix's Avatar
      vaughnfelix -
      I don't get it, why are Apple haters here trying to convert us to hate Apple... go play in your own neighborhood...!
    1. kyphur's Avatar
      kyphur -
      Quote Originally Posted by vaughnfelix View Post
      I don't get it, why are Apple haters here trying to convert us to hate Apple... go play in your own neighborhood...!
      I don't get why fanboys (not saying you are one) equate "the realities that Apple isn't everything to everyone and thier products are built upon the work of others " as Apple Haters trying to convert everyone.

      Like your iDevices, I do... Just don't be threatened by open discussion.
    1. clack11's Avatar
      clack11 -
      Its crazy wat people do because of money$$$$$$!