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  • Apple Accused of Infringing Three of Samsung's Patents


    Samsung recently moved forward with arguments in its case against Apple by going on the offensive. The South Korean electronics giant is alleging that Apple infringed on three patents regarding the usability of multi-feature portable devices like smartphones.

    In court on Tuesday, Harvard professor and patent specialist Woodward Yang was called to the stand as Samsung’s fourth witness. He gave his testimony regarding three patents currently owned by Samsung which covered photos, email attachments and playing music in the background. According to in-court reports from CNET, Yang claims to have spent roughly 300 to 400 hours researching Apple devices for trial purposes, concluding that certain models of the iPhone, iPad, and iPod Touch all infringe on Samsung’s patents.

    Yang demoed a photo emailing patent during his testimony by showing Apple’s iDevices sending pictures taken of an orange. He went on to say the invention was designed with feature phones in mind, doing away with the hassle of connecting the device to a computer to offload photos. It isn’t clear if the patent covers Apple’s integrated photo sharing options though. In another photo-related patent claim, Samsung tried to assert a photo album patent where users can bookmark a specific photo for viewing later. Yang demoed the allegedly infringed upon feature on the iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPad 2, and fourth generation iPod Touch, all of which presented the same image when bringing up a photo roll in an app other than Apple’s default Photos. Last but not least, Samsung asserted a patent which described a software solution for music to be played in the background behind other open apps. Here, Yang noted the idea for the claim was to find a way to keep music playing when switching through apps and while keeping device size down by not introducing decoding hardware.

    During Apple’s cross-examination, Apple lawyer Bill Lee went on the offensive, referencing a page frm Samsung’s slide-by-side comparison of the iPhone and what was targeted for the Galaxy S, stating the Korean company studied Apple’s implementation of email attachments. Lee brought up the following: "In your 400 hours of work, you have not found one iota of evidence that Apple knew about the '893 patent, or copied the '893 patent," and Yang agreed the assertion was true. It was noted by the Apple lawyer that none of the patent investors testified in Samsung’s defense, nor does the company use any of the asserted properties in its smartphones. The cross-examination ended with Lee asking Yang how Apple could of possibly copied the features if they weren’t even present on Samsung’s devices at the time of the iPhone’s release.



    We’ll have to see what’s in store for the two tech giants as the Apple vs. Samsung trial continues.

    Source: CNET
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Apple Accused of Infringing Three of Samsung's Patents started by Akshay Masand View original post
    Comments 40 Comments
    1. iBanks's Avatar
      iBanks -
      Quote Originally Posted by H4CK3R View Post
      Apple and Samsung must really love each other since they love to sue each other so much.

      All of these lawsuits are stupid, it's just the fact that Samusung and Apple hate each others guts.
      Didn't you just say something and then cancelled out what you just said all within the same two sentences? They love each other for the suits but then they hate each other for them as well? I'm confused.

      Quote Originally Posted by edoutmax View Post
      "The cross-examination ended with Lee asking Yang how Apple could of possibly copied the features if they weren’t even present on Samsung’s devices at the time of the iPhone’s release."

      hahaha so in order for someone to violate a patent it has to be present on a device? Also Apple, since the birth of mobile phones, have you ever seen a phone with sharp corners?
      How does this not make sense to you? That's like saying I create an idea and I file for it to be patented. But I'm not yet issued the patent as it is pending, but you utilize that technology in your device and I attempt to file violation on you. How can I if I'm not issued the patent yet?

      So if your going to develop an patent, you need to have an product representing that patent so if another person comes along and inputs that technology it makes it a valuable claim. Don't create a patent and let it sit and hang and never use it and then another person uses it and you want to cry about it. Produce something that utilizes it.

      Had Apple been issued these patents way back when during the original launch of the iPhone, this wouldn't be an issue but because they weren't issued during that time, it's open season with the patents because it wasn't an guarantee that Apple would have acquired them. They gotten many of these patents under their belt in late 2010 and after if I recall correctly. That's years of pending and nothing set in stone.
    1. mmaboi21's Avatar
      mmaboi21 -
      No comment
    1. hadzo's Avatar
      hadzo -
      Just remember that, if Apple had just cloned anyonelse's design when it decided to went to smartphone's market, we wold be all stuked with hardware keyboards right now and the touchscreen revolution would never happen!
      Wasn't touch screen there before iphone?

      I think apple has nothing to worry really... their OS is what makes the iphone great and easy to use. All the shape design fuss is ridiculous. Just make an iphone that can drive, done. lol
    1. iBanks's Avatar
      iBanks -
      Quote Originally Posted by mmaboi21 View Post
      No comment
      Isn't that a comment? Lol
    1. thevmax's Avatar
      thevmax -
      Quote Originally Posted by RyoSaeba View Post
      Yang got PWNED!
      Is that a new game ...YangPong

      Ya!
    1. Christophxr's Avatar
      Christophxr -
      A patent for a software "solution" to keep playing music while switching apps?

      Hmm, I wasn't aware that I wasn't doing that on every desktop operating system I've ever used this whole time.
    1. Anonymous's Avatar
      Anonymous -
      Quote Originally Posted by Christophxr View Post
      A patent for a software "solution" to keep playing music while switching apps?

      Hmm, I wasn't aware that I wasn't doing that on every desktop operating system I've ever used this whole time.
      I am pretty sure it only applies to mobile OS's
    1. soidroidios's Avatar
      soidroidios -
      Quote Originally Posted by iBanks View Post
      Didn't you just say something and then cancelled out what you just said all within the same two sentences? They love each other for the suits but then they hate each other for them as well? I'm confused.



      How does this not make sense to you? That's like saying I create an idea and I file for it to be patented. But I'm not yet issued the patent as it is pending, but you utilize that technology in your device and I attempt to file violation on you. How can I if I'm not issued the patent yet?

      So if your going to develop an patent, you need to have an product representing that patent so if another person comes along and inputs that technology it makes it a valuable claim. Don't create a patent and let it sit and hang and never use it and then another person uses it and you want to cry about it. Produce something that utilizes it.

      Had Apple been issued these patents way back when during the original launch of the iPhone, this wouldn't be an issue but because they weren't issued during that time, it's open season with the patents because it wasn't an guarantee that Apple would have acquired them. They gotten many of these patents under their belt in late 2010 and after if I recall correctly. That's years of pending and nothing set in stone.
      Funny that you say that. If you haven't kept up with all the news (which is impossible unless you want no social life) then you probably haven't heard of the dozens of patents that Apple just had the idea for, and they just let it sit there patented so no one else can use it until they figure out what to do with it. Apple has been patenting vaporware left and right already, even without definitive hardware to prove its workability.
    1. Mrteacup's Avatar
      Mrteacup -
      you guys say the consumers will lose if apple wins or if samsung wins.. but you do realize if either one wins it just pushes the other side to rethink their products and be more innovative..
    1. iBwizzle's Avatar
      iBwizzle -
      You won't catch me buying from either of these manufacturers. I don't buy popular devices. Instead, I buy from underdogs such as Nokia, Blackberry, and Meizu.
    1. Anonymous's Avatar
      Anonymous -
      Quote Originally Posted by iBwizzle View Post
      You won't catch me buying from either of these manufacturers. I don't buy popular devices. Instead, I buy from underdogs such as Nokia, Blackberry, and Meizu.
      Do you want a high five, hipster?
    1. mmaboi21's Avatar
      mmaboi21 -
      Quote Originally Posted by iBanks View Post
      Isn't that a comment? Lol
      Depends on how you look at it. ;p
    1. wiipro's Avatar
      wiipro -
      Quote Originally Posted by TheOrioles33 View Post
      It's getting old isn't it?
      Very VERY Old and annoying


      Taking up modmyi also
    1. luvmytj's Avatar
      luvmytj -
      Quote Originally Posted by NakedFaerie View Post
      Apple need to grow up and start sharing before more things start biting them in the butt.
      I hope it ends in Samsungs favor. That'll show Apple to shut up and play nice.



      Yep, the patents Apple have are all stupid ones. Like the one where they are the only ones that can have round edges. Is this a joke one or is this actually real? If its real then Apple really are stupid pric*s.
    1. H4CK3R's Avatar
      H4CK3R -
      Quote Originally Posted by luvmytj View Post
      Trolling, the most overused term on the internet. He was stating his opinion, respect that.

      An Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4] The noun troll may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted."
      While the word troll and its associated verb trolling are associated with Internet discourse, media attention in recent years has made such labels subjective, with trolling describing intentionally provocative actions and harassment outside of an online context. For example, mass media has used troll to describe "a person who defaces Internet tribute sites with the aim of causing grief to families."[5][6]


      @iBanks That was loaded with sarcasm...
    1. luvmytj's Avatar
      luvmytj -
      Quote Originally Posted by H4CK3R View Post
      Trolling, the most overused term on the internet. He was stating his opinion, respect that.



      @iBanks That was loaded with sarcasm...
      Then you have not seen all their other post. This person is by far the best definition of a troll.
    1. H4CK3R's Avatar
      H4CK3R -
      None of his posts are trolling. It's called opinion.
    1. tongxinshe's Avatar
      tongxinshe -
      Quote Originally Posted by H4CK3R View Post
      None of his posts are trolling. It's called opinion.
      I totally agree with luvmytj. I have also long noticed that NakedFaerie is nothing but a total troll.
    1. iBanks's Avatar
      iBanks -
      Sucks for Samsung today!
    1. xclusiveiphone's Avatar
      xclusiveiphone -
      Quote Originally Posted by H4CK3R View Post
      Trolling, the most overused term on the internet. He was stating his opinion, respect that.



      @iBanks That was loaded with sarcasm...
      Only ignorant people can respect unthoughtful childish opinion like those.