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What should happen is you report your serial number and when that gets used on any carrier the person cannot activate it at the least. That should be done by apple or who ever. They can track what we surf on the web and are location and this and that yet they cant add a simple... no restore, iphone is bricked unless apple unblocks the serial.

I don't want to sound like a nob, but this exact service has been available from the uk networks and with any phone for at least 5 years now :-P

"Because if anyone is gonna steal from you and get away with it, it's gonna be us."

-AT&T Exec

I agree, blocking each phone by serial number is the way to go. It would cut down the number of phones stolen if they can't be activated on another carrier or account with the same carrier. AT&T has had the ability to disable stolen iphones for quiet sometime but has neglected to enforce it since they make soooo much $$ off of it.

this is retarded, what they should do is upload code once you report it stolen locking up all apps, so they take it into apple and u get your iPhone back or ping the GPS on the iPhone so that the police can get it back for you
I personally don't really care if someone used my iPhone as long as they don't crack my screen or damage it in any way

robbers can't rack up charges on apps without the password unless u have the password auto fill hack so this is useless, except for the fact that your out the price of the iPhone +200 cause your not in the market for an upgrade

This is not just for Apple phones but all cell phones. And ATT once they get it going plan on working with other carriers to make a multi carrier database.

Originally Posted by sobeniceguy2

I agree, blocking each phone by serial number is the way to go. It would cut down the number of phones stolen if they can't be activated on another carrier or account with the same carrier. AT&T has had the ability to disable stolen iphones for quiet sometime but has neglected to enforce it since they make soooo much $$ off of it.

Serial numbers of iPhones can be changed fairly easily, especially if you have the right tools (which also changes the phone's UDID).

If Apple really cared about putting a stop to iPhone theft and resale, they'd stop signing SHSH blobs for stolen ECID's (which are darn near impossible to change) and activation tickets for stolen IMEIs polled from a global database. These things would still be possible to bypass for older phones, but the barrier of entry is much higher.

That aside, I'm glad to see AT&T getting with the rest of the cell phone world, circa 2003. Unless, of course, AT&T just blocks the SIM instead of killing it entirely, while not blocking the IMEI (which is just pointless).

Here is what the procedure should be:
You call AT&T and report the phone as stolen
AT&T checks the location of the phone and reports it to the police
AT&T remotely backs up the phone
AT&T wipes the phone automatically
AT&T then monitors the location of the phone in real time, reporting it to the police as necessary until the phone is recovered.
I say AT&T above for simplicity, but this could really be any carrier.

Also, no carrier should allow a phone that has been reported as stolen to be activated and when someone tries, the police should be called, unless the person can demonstrate that they are the rightful owner and the phone has been returned to them.

Originally Posted by cmwade77

Here is what the procedure should be:
You call AT&T and report the phone as stolen
AT&T checks the location of the phone and reports it to the police
AT&T remotely backs up the phone
AT&T wipes the phone automatically
AT&T then monitors the location of the phone in real time, reporting it to the police as necessary until the phone is recovered.
I say AT&T above for simplicity, but this could really be any carrier.

Also, no carrier should allow a phone that has been reported as stolen to be activated and when someone tries, the police should be called, unless the person can demonstrate that they are the rightful owner and the phone has been returned to them.

And AT&T charges $50/mo for this service... What you are suggesting is cool, certainly, but it wouldn't be cheap. When did we atart expecting wireless carriers and phone manufacturers to get this involved with getting a lost/stolen product back? You don't even get service like this for a car (unless you pay for it) for Christ's sake!

Originally Posted by Orby

Serial numbers of iPhones can be changed fairly easily, especially if you have the right tools (which also changes the phone's UDID).

If Apple really cared about putting a stop to iPhone theft and resale, they'd stop signing SHSH blobs for stolen ECID's (which are darn near impossible to change) and activation tickets for stolen IMEIs polled from a global database. These things would still be possible to bypass for older phones, but the barrier of entry is much higher.

That aside, I'm glad to see AT&T getting with the rest of the cell phone world, circa 2003. Unless, of course, AT&T just blocks the SIM instead of killing it entirely, while not blocking the IMEI (which is just pointless).

When I said Serial numbers I meant ECID's and IMEI's in laymen's terms. I agree a global database is a good idea to reduce the number of phones being stolen and used elseware.

Ya, AT&T AND all the other carriers could have done this from the start.
The reason they didn't: FOLLOW THE MONEY!
I know they have the ability because that's how 911 works.
BUT, there has been no incentive. Think about it...
If the carrier can sell you a new phone and make another $200 to $400,
why would they want to help you get your phone back.
Now they will do more because they still want to keep you as their customer.

Originally Posted by brodimus

"because if anyone is gonna steal from you and get away with it, it's gonna be us."

-at&t exec

rme smdh

Originally Posted by sziklassy

And AT&T charges $50/mo for this service... What you are suggesting is cool, certainly, but it wouldn't be cheap. When did we atart expecting wireless carriers and phone manufacturers to get this involved with getting a lost/stolen product back? You don't even get service like this for a car (unless you pay for it) for Christ's sake!

Exactly, thank you!

Originally Posted by thevmax

Ya, AT&T AND all the other carriers could have done this from the start.
The reason they didn't: FOLLOW THE MONEY!
I know they have the ability because that's how 911 works.
BUT, there has been no incentive. Think about it...
If the carrier can sell you a new phone and make another $200 to $400,
why would they want to help you get your phone back.
Now they will do more because they still want to keep you as their customer.

Wrong. How is selling you another phone going to help the Carrier?? That's padding the manufacturer's pocket for sure but not the carrier who is most certainly going to cow tow to you whiners among us and give you a discounted price via early upgrade. That's another contract which also is actually LOSING them $ because now you didn't even fulfill the FIRST 24-mo contract they gave you the now stolen first discounted phone on. If anyone is making $$ it's the insurance companies like Asurion charging $7/mo and a $200 deductible to replace a phone (see iPhone deductibles).

Oh and the FCC mandated this. Trust and believe AT&T would not have done this if there was a choice simply for the fact it will certainly turn into a nightmare of people calling in trying to get back at a crazy ex by blocking his/her phone.

I wouldn't cut off the device at first, rather take a laptop to the police and say "someone stole my $800 phone and they are right....here."
Hopefully whoever steals my iPhone doesn't shut it off or reformat it right away.